model C power steering

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   Just thought I'd share the progress of a resto-mod of a basket case C I bought two years ago for $300...yes I know it has a B front end , but that's how I found it.   After the usual maintenance I got it running and stopping reliably...I set about installing live hydraulics, 3 point hitch and then power steering.  The hydraulic pump is just a typical gear type pump that is mounted to radiator support and driven by a shaft through the hand crank hole...hand built a tank and mouted it under the seat along with a single spool valve. Plumbed it up and fabricated a three point hitch system and a receiver hitch for a draw bar.  The factory steering box was shot, so I replaced it with the power steering gear box from a KIA sportage.. Had to add a rocker arm to reverse the direction of steering as the kia is exactly backwards. Plumbed it into my hydraulic circuit and voila'...sweet easy and tight steering. It's just a delight to drive now...ready for mowing season to start!

Edited by Jerrittcat - 19 Mar 2016 at 1:47pm

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Jerrittcat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: USA Points: 456	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jerrittcat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: model C power steering Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 5:58pm
	Just thought I'd share the progress of a resto-mod of a basket case C I bought two years ago for $300...yes I know it has a B front end , but that's how I found it. After the usual maintenance I got it running and stopping reliably...I set about installing live hydraulics, 3 point hitch and then power steering. The hydraulic pump is just a typical gear type pump that is mounted to radiator support and driven by a shaft through the hand crank hole...hand built a tank and mouted it under the seat along with a single spool valve. Plumbed it up and fabricated a three point hitch system and a receiver hitch for a draw bar. The factory steering box was shot, so I replaced it with the power steering gear box from a KIA sportage.. Had to add a rocker arm to reverse the direction of steering as the kia is exactly backwards. Plumbed it into my hydraulic circuit and voila'...sweet easy and tight steering. It's just a delight to drive now...ready for mowing season to start! Edited by Jerrittcat - 19 Mar 2016 at 1:47pm

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Dan73 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan73 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 6:18pm
	Nice setup. I didn't know you could do power steering on one of those. Love the hydraulic upgrade the custom tank look factory under the seat.

BrianC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Location: New York Points: 1619	Post Options Post Reply Quote BrianC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 7:11pm
	If it were an original C steering setup, I think you wouldn't have needed that reversing link. If you have them, could you post pictures of KIA box installed without the toolbox. Thanks

Jerrittcat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: USA Points: 456	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jerrittcat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 7:19pm


what66 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Location: linden,ia Points: 167	Post Options Post Reply Quote what66 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 7:37pm
	Wow that's great! Can I ask you how you added the shaft for the hydraulic pump? I tried and failed to do the same thing I would be grateful for any tips. I used a chain and sprocket for my live hydraulics it works but is noisy. Would you mind if I use your idea for the power steering? I won't if you prefer I don't thanks.

Mrgoodwrench Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: CHICORA PA Points: 2087	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mrgoodwrench Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 7:43pm
	I'd like to see some pics of the pump drive too. What is that front weight from? I've thought of adding live hyd to my b when I get around to redoing it. If I get a pump on I thought of using a hyd torque generator to get power steering.
	There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!!

Burl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2014 Location: Aurora Mo. Points: 232	Post Options Post Reply Quote Burl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 8:04pm
	Sweet set up ! I am going to make a fork lift out of a CA , your kin thinking solved a few bugs I had . Thanks

Jerrittcat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: USA Points: 456	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jerrittcat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 8:22pm
	A 3\4" shaft ground to a point fits into crank hole and centers its self I drilled throuh ears on pulley and pump shaft and pinned it with a 1\4" grade 8 bolt. Mount a flange bearing on inside of radiator support to carry it...adapt other end to pump.

Jerrittcat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: USA Points: 456	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jerrittcat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 8:36pm


what66 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Location: linden,ia Points: 167	Post Options Post Reply Quote what66 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2016 at 10:54pm
	That is a cool setup thank you for sharing.