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Model C oil pressure

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    Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 5:56pm
Still farting with my C. Motor is brand new so I bought a new oil pressure gauge for it that says Allis Chalmers on it and the needle barely comes into normal at full throttle so I put a gauge with #'s on it and at full throttle it shows 13-14 psi. The book says it should have 15 psi so the question is what pressure range would the original gauges have been? I'm guessing the new gauge would probably read to around 80 psi and that's why it hardly registers. I think I'll pull a gauge off another tractor and compare the reading.
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Yep, 10 to 15 psi is normal oil pressure on a 125 engine. Get the original style gauge. Make sure it isn't one for a D17 with the full pressure lube system. Pretty sure they're higher. The diesel D17's run about 40 also.

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I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I have two that have been running at 5 lbs for twenty years.
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Lonnie,
I know the new gauge for my CA reads a little less than the original.  At full throttle the old gauge would peg between the r & m in Normal. New gauge between the o & r.  The engine had not been overhauled other than a valve job.  I seem to think the graphics on the new gauges are a touch off which would show a little less pressure.  Hell, I'm just happy the old girl has oil pressure!  Good luck with your C they are still great little tractors!
My tractor is not leaking oil, it's just marking it's territory!
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You do understand that new bearings will have absolutely no effect on the oil pressure in that engine. The amount of oil pressure is determined within the oil pump and oil filter only.

Sounds like you are good to go as it is.


Edited by Dick L - 09 Aug 2011 at 8:11pm
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Right, If the needle moves run it.
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First thing I look at after starting is the oil gauge....Right after I rebuilt  mine with new sleeves,piston kits,etc and new blades? in the pump ,it would once in  awhile fail to show pressure on startup. I'd shut down and open the line from the pump and squirt oil down into the pump,. On restart it would be fine. Drove me nuts once in awhile . After  maybe 10-15 hours of run time it pumps fine on start up. Sorry didn't mean to hijack post..... 
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What you posted is by no means a hijack.

This is though:
If you have a pressure problem again you can save some time with no tools and just remove the oil filter and squirt some oil down the stand pipe.

One B I have needs this done once in a while.
I made a little holder and mounted it to the tractor to hold a little squirt can of oil.

I even painted the holder orange.
Not Persian Orange #1 just orange.
Some ask if it's #1 or #2 and I tell them it's #3.
That gives them something to think about. LOL     
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Thanks ! I like the filter removal better than breaking into a line and you're right ...no tools required. 
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Try it you'll like it!!!!LOL
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I think I'll just run it. Thanks for the input.
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Lon,  a good pump will put out around 15 psi, never seen much more than that. Oldler engins will have 5-10 psi.  I have seen a few that and 0-2 psi at idle, and maybe  8 when reved up.. Hate to see a motor with only 2 psi running
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