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Dean(IA) 
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Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 8:44pm |
Does anyone have any information about the Mitchell Snap Hitch and the Snap-Coupler? Did the Mitchell Snap Hitch develop into the Snap-Coupler? These are both Allis-Chalmers ads. (The Snap -Coupler ad is from Austin Fredericks' website) Bill Long, do you have any ideas about the Mitchell Snap Hitch? Thanks, Dean 
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Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 8:51pm |
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That's a neat add. Never seen a exhaust pipe like on the B
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Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 8:51pm |
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Thank you for posting this. I have never seen it before.
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Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 9:19pm |
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Be nice to know what the date was of Mitchell's advertising. If it is before 1955 or so, maybe he did invent the concept of snap-coupler hitching.
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Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 11:23pm |
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Knowing the year would definitely be nice! The tractor in the ad for the Mitchell Snap Hitch almost looks like an English B to me... Perhaps they marketed the Snap Coupler in the US and Mitchell Snap Hitch in Europe.
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Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 7:44am |
The Victoria Museum in Melbourne, Australia posted the ad from Mitchell & Co. Footscray West, Melbourne, Australia. Their post
said that the ad is from 1950. I will try to contact Mitchell and
see if the company is still in business and has any more information on the Snap Hitch.
Also, you are correct, it is an English B.
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Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 9:07am |
 Mikez wrote:
That's a neat add. Never seen a exhaust pipe like on the B |
I think that is the air inlet.
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Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 9:19am |
Dusty MI wrote:
Mikez wrote:
That's a neat add. Never seen a exhaust pipe like on the B |
I think that is the air inlet. |
I see the normal "mushroom" cap on the air cleaner.
Considering the fires Australia is known for, could it be a spark arrestor?
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Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 6:39pm |
Page 32 of the B parts book shows that air cleaner as the one for a power unit. I suppose it would be very easy to put that on a tractor. AaronSEIA
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Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 11:19pm |
So, this particular tractor has two air cleaner intakes?
And one of them exits the hood where the exhaust pipe normally would?
I'm still thinking spark arrestor....with a little googling I found a few references to spark arrestors for Australian tractors including formal tests of them.
I know there are some Aussies on here who surely would know.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 4:04am |
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Mitchell farm machinery were a distributor of Allis Chalmers tractors here in Australia from 1946 onwards in Victoria. I would say that the Snap Coupler advertised in this ad is merely just advertising the factory product. Mitchell imported the tractors but most implements out here were manufactured by Mitchell and Co so A/C implements are very rare. I have heard they developed ploughs and other implements to suit the A/C Snap Coupler but have never seen any.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 5:10am |
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Thanks for explaining Travis and thanks to Dean for starting this thread! Great piece of AC history that I had never heard or seen mentioned.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 5:14am |
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But, the problem with that theory is this: A-C didn't offer the "snap-coupler" system on the WD45 until late 1953 at s/n 151,381 and it was standard equipment. So how could a model "B" in 1950 have it when the WD45 had not yet been built ??
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 5:25am |
re:... So how could a model "B" in 1950 have it when the WD45 had not yet been built ??
Well A-C was known to be ahead of its time !! 
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 6:28am |
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If you look way to the right of the add it also lists the CA and the WD45. The top picture appears to be WD or WD45.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 6:51am |
Remember, the later B's could be had with a snap coupler hitch. In the States, the B overlapped the entire production of CA's minus the last year of them. AaronSEIA
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 12:23pm |
DrAllis wrote:
But, the problem with that theory is this: A-C didn't offer the "snap-coupler" system on the WD45 until late 1953 at s/n 151,381 and it was standard equipment. So how could a model "B" in 1950 have it when the WD45 had not yet been built ?? |
Does anyone have any information about the Mitchell Snap Hitch and the Snap-Coupler? Did the Mitchell Snap Hitch develop into the Snap-Coupler? These are both Allis-Chalmers ads. (The Snap -Coupler ad is from Austin Fredericks' website) Bill Long, do you have any ideas about the Mitchell Snap Hitch? Thanks, Dean
I think that was Dean's question........could the Allis Snap-Coupler have developed FROM the Mitchell Snap Hitch? Obviously, the '50 B could not have had an Allis Snap-Coupler however, a Mitchell Snap-Hitch could have been bought for it. Could Allis have liked it enough to "invent" their own?
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 2:47pm |
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Well, the "Roto-Baler" was someone else's creation and AC bought it from him. Nothing illegal or immoral about that. It's just how business rolls sometimes. I had a neighbor 50 years ago who built a self-loading tank type manure spreader. He used it for a couple of years on his farm and then sold it (and the idea) to a Farm Equipment Manufacturer.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 3:24pm |
Do we have a date for that Mitchell brochure? When was it published? AaronSEIA
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 3:35pm |
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The original post said 1950.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 3:47pm |
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That is 2 separate ads the snap coupler was invented by La Crosse Works on August 13th 1953 by Willard H Tanke. You can look up the full patent. My guess is the Mitchell hitch was a aftermarket for a B.
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 3:51pm |
200 10and20 wrote:
That is 2 separate ads the snap coupler was invented by La Crosse Works on August 13th 1953. You can look up the full patent. My guess is the Mitchell hitch was a aftermarket for a B.
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If the original ad is indeed from 1950, then the Mitchell hitch is 3 years newer than the AC one. All the internet shows about a Mitchell hitch is 2 pieces of literature with the identical tractor setup on them. One page did say the original ad was 4 pages long, but they only show the image we are discussing. AaronSEIA
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Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 7:52pm |
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Are they guessing when they said the Mitchell ad is from 1950? Anyhow, it would help some to have a better picture of the complete hitch. Looking at the provided pic, it doesn't look like an AC snap coupler under the tractor to me.
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Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 7:46am |
Lonn wrote:
Are they guessing when they said the Mitchell ad is from 1950? Anyhow, it would help some to have a better picture of the complete hitch. Looking at the provided pic, it doesn't look like an AC snap coupler under the tractor to me. |
I can't tell what is under that B. Looks like the plow hitch to me, but there must be some kind of quick release to it. It sure doesn't look like the AC snap coupler for the B. I'll guess some kind of aftermarket setup. AaronSEIA
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Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 8:07am |
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And it may look nothing like what A-C came out with, BUT the basic idea of a snap/hook type hitch may have come from Australia.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 2:23pm |
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Could that be an exhaust extension? Seeing as it is an Australian tractor, wouldn't it make sense that there is an extension and then a spark arrestor on top of that?
Hard to ell from the pic, but it looks to be a pin hitch. I've been wrong before.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 3:32pm |
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That brochure must be 1954 or later.
Per the Allis CA Parts Catalog of 1960, only the last CA of 1953,
CA 31423, had a Snap Coupler.
WD-45 came out in mid 1953, and one of it's features was Snap Coupler.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:59pm |
Gary wrote:
That brochure must be 1954 or later.
Per the Allis CA Parts Catalog of 1960, only the last CA of 1953,
CA 31423, had a Snap Coupler.
WD-45 came out in mid 1953, and one of it's features was Snap Coupler.
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You're referring to the A-C brochure on the right?
The brochure on the left is the one from Mitchell.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 5:04pm |
Ted J wrote:
Could that be an exhaust extension? Seeing as it is an Australian tractor, wouldn't it make sense that there is an extension and then a spark arrestor on top of that?
Hard to ell from the pic, but it looks to be a pin hitch. I've been wrong before.
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If you read the brochure, it speaks of backing up to the implement and it "snaps" onto the coupler. It then says to unhitch, simply pull the release lever and drive away.
So, it may not have been exactly like the patented A-C system, but it worked basically the same.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 5:25pm |
In the land of Oz, things happen differently, with regard to patent laws, and concessions the company might have had to make, to allow AC to sell tractors, there...
The bell, under the tractor, sure looks like the original AC part...
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