Mack, Dr.Allis

mlpankey wrote: DrAllis wrote: The Deutz in R42/R52 was a 374 cube displacement. The one from the BIG Deutz/Allis/White tractor was 584 cube in-line six. Don't forget the 800 inch Moline engine that was used for Agricultural purposes pumping irrigation water !!! Like I said, I think this class is doomed for fighting about rules and safety issues. I'd sure hate to spend 20 or 30K and kick tail for a year only to be banned the next season cause my combination was tooooo good!   Are you talking about the white 2-150?  They dont have a problem now with the 320 or 800 mm being to good. ,

I think he was referring to the Deutz engine in like an AGCO Allis 9190, they had a White drivetrain.

Put a 310 Waukesha in it.  After all, Oliver and AC are in the "AGCO" corp.  Bend the rules to suit you also.

7080 What would be your choice in a inline six?

DrAllis wrote: The Deutz in R42/R52 was a 374 cube displacement. The one from the BIG Deutz/Allis/White tractor was 584 cube in-line six. Don't forget the 800 inch Moline engine that was used for Agricultural purposes pumping irrigation water !!! Like I said, I think this class is doomed for fighting about rules and safety issues. I'd sure hate to spend 20 or 30K and kick tail for a year only to be banned the next season cause my combination was tooooo good!

  Are you talking about the white 2-150?  They dont have a problem now with the 320 or 800 mm being to good. ,

Edited by mlpankey - 10 Feb 2011 at 11:07am

Here's a 301 in a 45.  Has a oliver wide front.

sheetmetal makes one appear to be what sometimes it is not.

Edited by mlpankey - 09 Feb 2011 at 4:16pm

I saw a Ford 500hp. Tank engine in a W9 International pull once it did real good.E.J .Potter of Ithaca Mi. used to pull Double Ugly with two Allison aircraft engines it was fun to watch him pull! This idea of putting big blocks in WC's or WD's sounds like an accident waiting to happen!

Would allis ag crawler engines count, if so thats a big list including Detroits but I have yet to see one pull that was anything but loud.

I think our combine had something like an f8l413 engine, I don't rember exactly.  It burned and we were glad it was gone.  It was an R62, twin turbo.  Older ones were natural aspirated and around 230 hp.  Thr big Duitz was a torque monster it would just about tear the engine out of the mounts in high load situations, mud, hills, etc.  The Cummins was a dog compared to a duitz.  Our new John Deeres don't have the torque backup the big kraut had.

I sure wouldn't spend much time considering such a rule, it will eventually become a back to OEM type block and head.  I'll stick with an engine more "correct" so when things change or one wants to pull somewhere else, sell it or what have you.

Does that mean you could use the duetz engines or any agco engine presently used or the big N7 motor. What about the V8 cummins out of a 440. Should be able to use the sugar babe motor since they had a couple for ag.

think a little harder if it's legal to use an engine from a gleaner combine.  Pretty nice heads.  Individual cylinders.  Cross bolted mains and a nice light engine to start with, aluminum cylinders and heads, cast crankcase. 

Edited by wi50 - 09 Feb 2011 at 7:19am

I left you a message on another sight.

 I guess you should be able to drill/thread/machine the injector holes to accept a small spark plug similar to some modern (Ford Triton) engines. Cut the pistons a little to drop the 16 to 1 compression down a bit and regrind the camshaft to gasoline specs and rig up a belt driven governor to a carb that is attached to the intake manifold turned upside down.........yeah....should run good, but I'll bet 426 cubes ain't enough !!!!! Them Ollies are as big as 500 cubes in some towns I hear !!.

cant join them its got to be different or its not me whats the fun in being the same