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BrianC ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Location: New York Points: 1619 |
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Is it accepted that LP fueled engines last longer than gasoline fueled equivalent? I note that they usually up the compression on the LP models. What's the longevity difference? How about fuel system reliability.
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I had a Chevy, 366 lp burner that ran well over 250000 miles. The truck delivered LP gas to the country. But I had several 366 gas that ran the same miles with no major problems. The oil in the LP always looked like new while the gas was always black at 3000 miles. I ran an expermintal synthetic oil in the LP burner. That was in 1976 before synthetic was introduced to the public. It got changed at 10000 miles on the odometer, was probably equivalent to 15000 miles when you added in the time it sat pumping propane.
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allischalmerguy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2893 |
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Yes LP tractors are said to run longer between overhauls than a gas tractor. On the farm I grew up on in the 1960-75 we had several LP tractors. John Deere 720, Case 530 and John Deere 3020. They all could only run on just LP, not combo with gasoline. Dad said they always ran cheaper per hour with LP than gas. I don't know if that was so or not. They started easy. I think they had less hp than a gasoline version. One day I was cultivating corn in a field with the JD 720 with 6 row cultivator. It was very hot out. I remember it like yesterday. I was driving a long and bang! There was a big boom with whistle. I thought I had broke something on the tractor! But it was simply the pressure relief valve on the LP tank going off. First and only time I think it ever went off! And I spent many many hours on that tractor for several summers cultivating! The LP tractor exhuast also had its own smell.
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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Pat the Plumber CIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4901 |
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Worked for Minnie Mo farmer way back . He had a tractor for each piece equipment and they all ran on LP . He claimed the smaller tractors were more efficient on LP , but he claimed the big 1355 MM was not near as efficient at heavy field work. He bought in to LP as a way around road tax on fuel. By the time he bought the big tank , pump and tractors they started putting dye in the off road Diesel. Too late .
Yes LP engines stay cleaner . Any tractors that got opened up looked like new on the inside. Yes a very distinct odor. Farmer I worked for raised , cleaned and bagged soybean seed . Combination of rotting soybeans and LP fuel bring back some bad memories. |
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
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Clay ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9782 |
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My CII combine runs on propane. I like it. Always starts. Oil stays clean. Spark plugs don't foul and last longer.
Bad thing is it is hard to carry a 5 gallon bucket of fuel and refill. lol
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Les Kerf ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 May 2020 Location: Idaho Points: 1202 |
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The last sawmill I worked at had a small propane powered forklift that was used mostly inside to carry the units of lumber outside to the bigger forklifts (we produced Cedar fence boards).
This machine was a Cat with a jap engine (maybe Mitsubishi?) that had in excess of 15,000 hours on it; it still ran perfectly but started to set off the CO (Carbon Monoxide) sensor in the mill every time it drove past the sensor. When our mechanic tore it down, we were all amazed at how clean the engine was inside. If it had been mine I would have just put in new rings (the cross-hatch was still visible in the cylinders) but Management said to re-bore it. They bored it 0.010" and put in new standard size bearings plus had a valve job done. No more CO warnings after that. |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 33647 |
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Engines were standard gasoline converted to LP, no compression Increase but they did require welding the valve rotator assemblies or changing to a non rotating valve spring retainer as would flat eat valves as too dry. LP has ~1/2 the BTU of gasoline so will use more but is already vaporized as hits intake where gas remains some liquid which causes the oil wash and carbon transition into oil of engines. LP trucks used 1/3 More Gallonage of fuel compared to gasoline, the cost factor was never really there as to fuel Currently .94/g lp PLUS $100 fuel Road Tax permit annually to buy here, use twice to a third more and right in there with gasoline $$ Wise. Add in trying to get filled somewhere and then chase that tail. Here had to set appointment with LP Distributor for refills or lease a 1000 gal tank, fill that at $900, have the tank modified with a Liquid Supply standpipe and valve to refill at home, STILL required Road tax permit.
Edited by DMiller - 08 Jan 2021 at 6:09am |
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Les Kerf ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 May 2020 Location: Idaho Points: 1202 |
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Here is a link to a LONG thread I started some years ago over on a forum called FordSix. I did a rudimentary study on Propane vs. Gasoline using the Nebraska Tractor Tests book written by Wendell. My study was aimed at comparing similar engines using different fuels under the same test conditions for power and fuel economy.
Beware, this is a long thread. My screen name over there is Lazy JW. https://fordsix.com//viewtopic.php?t=46638 Edited by Les Kerf - 08 Jan 2021 at 6:18am |
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