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    Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 6:51am
Keep seeing ads(Craigslist or FB sales) for trucks or cars with lost title but a notation will have B.O.S. and easy to get title so I called License office, NOT TRUE. The original Owner has to apply for a 'Lost Title' and pay a fee. If the person selling has no title or failed to register then pitched the Old title figuring to bypass paying sales tax on THEIR Purchase and the original owner is unavailable then NO there will NOT be a title issued, if transferred thru a dealer they can write up a sales receipt title application.

Made a few enemies as called a couple of these out. Made a few texts on their ads and made certain the texts showed up as to applying for a title BY THEM is so easy and would pay $XXX if they got one where they either would not answer or smart Alek replied back and then the hornets descended on them. One however stood out as was relatively close, had another old GMC I am still interested in getting for repair to Brother In Laws old dumper, took a photo of Data Tag, when was informed Lost the Title, told him would pay him the fee to get that title but he said would have to do myself, so called Sheriff Department, asked to look up ID number as no title. Not only NOT the registered owner but listed as stolen five years ago, so gave them his address.

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good job on going the extra mile to save yourself and others a lot of headaches and possible law problems! there are a lot more stolen stuff on CL than people think. we had one dude move to NE and brought his car into the state inspection station so he thought he could license it here from PA. we ran the VIN and it was a stolen car out of PA. then as we were cuffing him, he said it wasn't stolen in NE! LOL dumba$$!
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   LOLLOL,,,That right there is funny,,Shameless,,,,Clap 

You know I started checkin out Them Marketplace ads on facebook and you CAN get some really fab deals,,,and like ole DMiller and Shameless say they is lots of them "Too Good To Pass up" deals alla the time.  They all got the same line that they'll give you a BOS and YOU can go to MVD and no problem,,,,,,BUT,,if you agree to them shenanigans,, you just lost some money or you gonna have to part it out.!! I been lucky as I've bought 4 different vehicles and gots the titles after THEY went to MVD and got em,,,,but they didn't want at first,,,LOL
 Only'ist thing  I don't care for is you got to be QUICK or you ain't gonna be in the runnin for that item,,,,,Wink


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Some States are harder than others. Because some of them have figured out it's a revenue generator. Kansas is said to be easiest. In my home State any title work it's just easier to drive to the State capital and walk into the DMV.
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The state can make it easy or hard....... BUT , they will look up the ORIGINAL TITLE on file and if it is NOT YOU, then you don't get a re-title.
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After dad passed I needed to change the name on the title for his truck. I was able to do it in one day but it required multiple trips between the bank, the courthouse, the DMV and the lawyers office and then the DMV could not take cash for the fee or tax or whatever it was so I had to go back to the bank and get them a money order. Can you tell this is why Illinois is so screwed up.😬
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Yes,  I have had this conversation with a few people on trucks and a lot of motorcycles.  They will say how easy it is for me to get and I say it is even easier for you to go get one.
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There's a reason, like DMiller found out, when they don't want to get the title. They either don't know for sure or have a hunch it's either hot or has a lien against it. Then if it hasn't been registered in many years, some states purge it from their records. Iowa purges them from their database when they change the license plate numbering and the registration is more than 3 years delinquent. I found this out when I went to bring my 68 Torino up to date having been delinquent for 20 years. When I inquired about bringing it up to date the color drained out of the lady's face behind the desk and she said without a title my car no longer existed. When I said I still had the title in my name, her color came back as fast as it left. It would be no problem to add it back to the system, only catch is since it was originally titled in Black Hawk co, Jasper co couldn't do it and I'd have to take a day off and drive up there. Then she said let me call them. In the end the lady faxed a copy of my title to Black Hawk, they put it back in the system, I had to pay a small penalty, I paid 3 years back registration fees of $6 a year based on what my last registration was, $10 for new plates, and another $6 for the current year. The total was right about $40 and only took 2 days to do it. I can't imagine what I'd have had to do with no title and not in my name.
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$10 for plates !!!!! Up here a tag is $120 !
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State laws vary, but If I am buyin a vehicle, they better have title in hand, or be willing to go to the closest tag/title place, with me, or there's no deal...Hug
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

State laws vary, but If I am buyin a vehicle, they better have title in hand, or be willing to go to the closest tag/title place, with me, or there's no deal...Hug

In MO, even if you have the title in hand, you need a letter from the finance company named on the title as lien-holder releasing title or you cannot transfer it.  MO no longer requires lien-holder to hold the title until it's paid off, title is sent to owner immediately after registration but the title is marked that there is a lien and their name is on it.
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Have one of those currently letter sitting WITH the Title.
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It's not even legal for them to sell without a valid title!---I see them all the time and passed up a nice truck cause the guy said no title, selling as a parts truck,--there again not legal without the title!
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I see it all the time here too.
I found a fence row 1951 Chevy truck tonight and you guessed it, no title. I want that truck but paperwork isn’t my thing.
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 Yeah,,,I've passed up so many great soundin deals,,cause you can tell something ain't kosher when they start tellin you how easy it is for YOU to go get it. On a couple of really great soundin deals ,,I've even offered to go with them to DMV and PAY for the lost title and transfer,,,, and if they balk,,,well,,it time to move on,,,,,Wink
 OH ,,and another thing,,,I WILL NOT go to the local DMV for anything,,!! Besides being as slow as two turtles tied together,,they can think of more reasons why you shouldn't be doin what you think you want to do,,!!! I drive up to the Alien town, pull into their DMV, and be out of there in a pair of minutes,,,,ClapClap


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Wink Well I got the other halfof the deal for all you frugal ones.LOL I have a 76 GMC half ton long bed.Just a flat cam like that vintage of small block all seemed to have every so often. Parked at my friends canyon of treasures. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Well the canyon had a little fire burn up it. Sure was nice not having to be so carefull of the wildlife,and snakes hiding in them. But my friend decided Confused with his wifes help it was time to tidy up the canyonCry. My wife said Confused truck could not sit in my front yard,Cry so off to China it went. As a outfit came and did all the work and still payed $50 a ton.

I had all paperwork in order and payed the non op FEE. Which is a one time thing so far, but they remind you if you get it smog inspected and pass you can drive it again.Big smile So we sent it back saying destroyed in a ranch fire. State send notice until dismantler sends paperwork truck is in the system.LOLLOLLOL


So a ran when parked 76 GMC truck real cheap,Wink you just have to find it.LOL
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

$10 for plates !!!!! Up here a tag is $120 !
It depends on the state how that works. I used to know a guy from Missouri and he said it was $35 annually for registration there but to register his car in Iowa it was going to be about $400 so he kept it registered in Missouri. The catch was Missouri has personal property tax that's paid separately from registration annually. Iowa doesn't have a separate personal property tax, they just charge it on the registration fee. As the vehicle ages, the personal property tax portion of the fee drops. In the case of a car it drops to $10 now. The first year I brought it up to date it was $6, the next year to renew it went up 40% to $10. Pretty steep increase, but $10 is still pretty cheap...
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They always seem to find ways to squeeze more out of ya. I wouldn't mind payin taxes as much if they weren't so frivolously wasted.
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Plates anywhere from $110 to $160 for my fleet.  It's scaled to the value of the vehicle.  But hey, at least we have the most expensive insurance in the country to go with it! Shoot Jay, them's $C, that's only what, $85 or so?  Hahaha...

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 I don't know,,,and can't figure this out,,,,,There just seems like just recently,,,there seems to be a whole lots more people sellin stuff with "No Title" and not just cars and trks.  We been lookin for a bigger trailer for the place up in the mountains and bout half of them are "No Title",,,,,,,are they stealing these somewhere or,,,??? May be due to a divorce or,,,,???
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Joe,, I gots one of them trailers with no title,,bought at an auction years ago, for some reason the title did not make it to the auction co. and me,,,and back in the day,, there were a lot of NM and TX trailers that were never titled to start with, mostly farm and ranch trailers, and never really enforced, in OK its hard to find a farm trailer that has a title
I did trace down the original owner,, he wasn't willing to apply for a lost title, or the TX DMV would not cause he was not in possession or some such excuse,, but would not make a report if I filed for a bonded title,, sooo, now that's what I'm in the process of doing,,
the way I understand a bonded title,is, after a length of time(3 years IIRC) the title becomes as god as an original issued I'm guessing this gives time to search and see if the vehicle has been stolen.
I don't even look at trailers at auctions anymore that say NO TITLE
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