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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote soundman502 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2011 at 11:09pm
I'll take the good camera with me next time and get some shots of the other equipment. There's also a disc out there that I may be able to grab as well.  We'll see.  I love old equipment as well.  I was happy at the thought of getting a WD45, but getting this '45 WC tops that just a bit.  It will look nice next to the '79 Bronco in the driveway :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveKamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 2:18am
That is definately a '45 WC... 4spd transmission (shifter WILL be 'floppy', so you'll guess-your-gear, but hey- it's fun!)... there's a straight rod that points up at the family jewels, that's called a DRIVELINE DISCONNECT... that does just what it says-  disconnects the rear axle just after the mechanical lift... so you can stop the tractor, flip the disconnect lever, release the clutch, and the mechanical lift will operate without the tractor  having to move.  Make sure it's in the disconnect position (I think that's DOWN) before you pull, so one less thing to worry about holdin' 'ya back.

The brakes are hand-levers, make sure they're not locked on and held with the parking-brake cams... and make sure the lever IS in NEUTRAL... gonna be tricky to feel it, I'm betting.

Sheetmetal looks to be in very good shape-  won't take much to make that pretty... but I think you're gonna wanna pop that motor out and drop in a known-good-runner.  It'll give you opportunity to 'work on' the clutch, too, as well as hand-spin the transmission shaft and make sure there's no serious problems there.  While you have the engine out, it's an excellent time to clean up the bearing surfaces of the steering, blast the crud out of the insides of the frame rails, and if the tranny needs TLC, it's right there.

But you CAN set this on WC steel (without the cleats on, of course) and it'll be easy to work on.  Those rear rims might be good enough to blast, paint, and re-use.  If the valve-stem holes are all rotted, but the metal is thick enough, grind the holes back 'till there's good metal, cut little disks and MIG'em into the holes, then polish it all smooth with a flapper-wheel, and drill new holes in another place on the rim.

Git'r pulled out... stop at the car-wash, hose it down with degreaser, then blast as much crud off as you can, then roll it into the shop, where you can get a cherry-picker rolled under.  Be gentle with the shroud, radiator, fuel tank, and tinwork, move it to safe storage location, then pull the carb, voltage regulator, generator, and put 'em in boxes for later. rig and lift the engine out, set it aside for now, then block up the rear axle and give the transmission and final drive an assessment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dusty MI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 6:12am
It's had some up-dates, After market seat, battery ignition, voltage regulator. Plus what Dave Kemp talked about. And like he said try to get the transmission in neutral or the drive line disconnect. It could be the reason it didn't want to move is because it is in gear and the engine is stuck.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Orange Blood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 7:44am
To answer your question.
If you have the piece of the block that broke out, it is fixable, if you have a really good welding shop around.  However as cheap as these blocks are, and as easy to find as they are, I would go get another one, as mentioned before. 
As for running her with the hole, it can be done for around a minute is all no load, until she cools back down again, but yes it can be run without water for a very short time
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sandknob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 9:37am
Scott,
I have a WC tire and rim that you can have.  It has a little rust around the valve stem, and the tire is an older recap, but I have no use for it.  I would like the fluid out of it though.  Tire shop said $25 to pump the fluid into another tire. 
Let me know if your interested.
Located in Oblong, Illinois
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Sandknob, I am interested, though it could be a bit before I could come after it.  Thanks for the offer!
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Well guys, I hate to do this, but apparently my plans are on hold for a while.  Leave it to family squabbling to screw up perfectly good plans.  Perhaps I can located another AC soon and just restore it.  Thank you all for your help and wisdom, it won't go unused.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveKamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 4:24pm
Hmm... sounds like someone in the family thinks it's worth big, big money, and has no realistic understanding of what it will deteriorate into.

Don't worry- they're around... we'll find 'ya something.
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Most 1945 WC's I've seen have the steel rear end housing, I think the cast ones are unusual.
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