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wekracer 
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 1:02pm |
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We are looking a kinze planter for next year. Dad is looking at 3600 planters and possibly a new one. We only farm about 300 acres and that sounds like a lot of money. I see 2600 planters in good shape for half the price of new. I know there are some differences but I don't really know what they are. I guess I'm in need of an education. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. Derek
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Allis dave
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 1:11pm |
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My uncle has a 2600 16/32 split row bean planter that I run. One of the row units is a 3600. I'm not sure if there are fertilizer differences between a 2600 and 3600. The main difference is in the row units. A 2600 row unit is 90% the same as JD 7000 row.
The 3600 has a nicer method to change your depth. The lever is easier to move between notches than a 2600.
The arm to engage/disengage the chain drive is also a little nicer. You twist a 3600 vs. pulling a 2600 lever and hitting your knuckles.
A 3600 has a slightly larger hopper.
I THINK a couple other difference too, like a sealed coulter bearing, and the depth wheel are are shimless. You can make those same updates to a 2600
Other than that, not much differences. It's mostly convenience differences. 1 our of our 32 rows is a 3600. They plant just the same.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 1:29pm |
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2600 kinze coming up at auction on the 19th here. Probably will go cheap cause its a little weathered.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 1:40pm |
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One of those 8 rows would be a good size for you. Sometimes I still wish ours was an 8 row instead of 16. We plant about 500 acres a year with it. Sometimes I pull into a 20 acre field and have to change down pressure, depth, or plates, and it takes longer than the planting! It takes me an hour to change 32 plates by myself.
Now that I think of it, the seed plates are the only issue we have. If the beans aren't sized uniformly or a little sticky, they will either double up or get stuck in the plate. The 2600 and 3600 use the same plates.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 2:27pm |
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Actually I guess it would be a 2500 8-15 row that we are looking at. Don't they use brush type meters. We run a 7100 Deere with 10-18" rows now but it's showing its age and the size is a limiting factor. The brush meters do an excellent job though.
I was actually in favor of a 12-23 but we do cross some creeks and dad has heard of the back units dragging and getting tore up in creek crossings. Anyone have any experiences either way.
Also after thinking about it the 8 row would be better on point rows without shutoffs.
Thanks for the input so far
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 3:19pm |
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We have the brush meters. They take plates. There is a large and small soybean plate that you'll have to switch between. Our brush meters are ok and have been rebuild with no improvement. They're cheap and you'll have to spend a lot more money to get a better unit.
the 16 and probably the 12 rows have the ability to shut off half the planter manually for point rows. I can't flip on and off quick enough for point rows, but I use it for long strips sometimes.
If you plan to no-till you'll want to match to your corn planter size, if not you could go 12 or 8 rows.
With our 16 row I could see it catching and dragging on the back. So that could be a concern with a 12 row, but they are up pretty high. I try not to transport with more than half full of beans. That's a lot of extra weight on 16 rows and tends to start rocking back and forth a lot. An 8 row would be very maneuverable, and add the box extensions and you'll plant 30 acres before filling.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 7:48pm |
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I would go with a 3600 over the 2600. Everything is better and there are more performance upgrades. I have a 3650 which is a heavier built 3600 basically. If you have hills and ditches the frame will hold up better, although we plant beans at 8.5mph. Check for cracks around the hinge pins on the front and where the top frame welds to the center post. I would absolutely not put box toppers on a 2600 with fiberglass boxes. The bottom of the box will bust out where it fastens to the row unit. The 3600 boxes are plastic and you won't ever need to replace them. I agree roading with the boxes full is hard on things too dads 3600 ripped the top frame off the post and let the back end drop one night. We run 16 rows and cross a lot of crossings where they drag, but the cylinder that locks the wings is slotted and the back end will raise as it drags the wing tires. I would look them over for cracks and get them welded when you find them. I think they are the best planters ever built.
Edited by 7060 - 02 Nov 2016 at 7:52pm
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