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Kerosene Wash for Oil Cup Air Cleaner Question

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    Posted: 18 Dec 2020 at 8:45pm
Hi All,

Inherited a 1959 D14, it was used pretty sparingly for the past few decades, 30 hours/year at most I would guess, and light work at that (riding around yard with grandkids, occasional pulling of cultivator).  With that being the case routine maintenance can fall off, so I'm doing a full course of it now.

Bought the owner's manual, which states to clean the air breather element once a year with kerosene.  My plan is to clean out the cup, put the cup back on, take it off the tractor, fill it from the intake until it begins to come out the port to the carburetor, then let it soak over night.  Next day, agitate every now and then and drain.

What I don't know is this.  After I drain the kerosene, what (if anything other than fill the cup with new oil) do I need to do before I put it back on the tractor and fire it up?  Do I need to rinse it, or let it sit draining for a certain amount of time?  Read some unpleasant stories of people using gasoline to clean it, I'm not doing that, but want to be safe with kerosene.  Any suggestions based on what you've done would be great.  Somewhat nervous about doing something that could cause a problem, i.e. blow me up.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Dec 2020 at 9:05pm
gee I think all I did was let it drain for a day,added oil to 'level', reattached it, started tractor and away it went...It might run 'rich' for a bit until the kerosene  is slowly drawn/burnt up...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geneklieb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Dec 2020 at 9:13pm
Thanks Jay, the manual didn't give any specific instructions on doing anything after the flush, but I feel better knowing that.

Now that I think of it, maybe after draining the kerosene I'll fill the cup with oil and swish that around a bit, then discard that to rinse out the kerosene.  


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I have cleaned a few in a 5gal. bucket half full of gas agitated then let soak, repeat . To be safe I let it dry in the sun several days  so the gas would evaporate.  keith so.va.
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The element on my WD45 was so caked full of muck I couldn't believe any air was going through it. I soaked and agitated it for days in Jet fuel, then followed up with soap and water. The soap and water took any oily or sticky residue out and once that dried a ton of loose chaff fell out. Once that dried I lubed the element with a preservative oil and reinstalled.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geneklieb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2020 at 6:50am
Hi Keith, thanks for your response.  Unfortunately the tractor is in Michigan, so not much drying in the sun potential there at the moment, and I'm hoping to use it to pull out some firewood from the woods before it get's really cold (before Christmas).  I might think about it this summer depending on how it goes.  I'm hoping the kerosene cleans it well.

The question I have is this, why use gasoline instead of what the manual calls for, kerosene?  It seems fairly popular.  Is there an advantage to it?  
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On my WD I took the wire mesh out to clean it and had the local napa shop run the housing through their jet wash they use to clean..... whatever, like carbs and what not. Cleaned the housing great. Had to carefully roll up the mesh to reinstall. Tight fit.
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It doesn't seem the wire mesh can be easily removed on my air cleaner, would need to break welds and then somehow reconnect :(  

I know you can on some models, it's a great tractor, but this is certainly a design problem.
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You're right. I just look it up in AGCO parts. Kinda dumb. My WD was so caked inside the housing I was surprised it ran as good as it did.
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take off the bowl...disconnect the hose ....poor  kerosene through...repeat with the same kerosene until you are satisfied....Mark
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Gene, you are doing it exactly as I have. Use kero, let it drip dry and reassemble with oil in the cup. Bob@allisdowneast
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I took mine to the parts washer at work stuck the hose in one end and the other hose with the brush end in the other let run for awhile and sloshed and changed positions a few times cleaned it out pretty good let it sit for a few days and it was good to go
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Put mine also in parts washer overnight. Rinsed it out with water then sprayed WD40 inside it to prevent any flash rusting.
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I forgot to mention that I also removed the steel wool element from the can to clean it, as dirty as mine was there is no way I would have gotten it clean without . I don't remember which seller has replacement steel wool elements for sale, that might be a better option in the long run.
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Steiner has the material to replace the mesh inside.

I use gas on the air breather for this Allis C.

Only issue it will take some of the paint off if not careful.



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Hi Sanchez,

How did you remove the element?  I know some models have spring clips that hold in the baffle/element, but mine is welded in.  Did you somehow fish it out?
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Tractor boy has the right idea. Gas cleans best, won’t hurt paint. Blow out with compressed air and reinstall.
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I took mine to the farm walked out with hot pressure washer and simple green. Blew it out with air squirted a little wd40 in it and put it back on. All the ones I've seen were welded in. On.y one I took apart the screen in it was in good shape.
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