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Sugarmaker 
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 Topic: Kelly's Walnut grove
Posted: 25 Aug 2018 at 7:35pm |
Folks, Our daughter called and said she wanted to turn over some ground to plant a grove of black walnut trees. I dont have a clue about this, but provided the basic 1950's equipment to get about a acre of ground turned over. Ryan helped but Kelly did a lot of the work. She had never brush hogged with the Jubilee so that was step 1. Then the D17 and three bottoms that were her grandfathers plows. Then a old set of discs that were her great uncles. Not sure how this will turn out. but its a start. And she got to spend some quality time with Dad!
This had been a field of golden rod and weeds: Extra brush hogging ahead of the plowing helped keep the plows from clogging!
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 25 Aug 2018 at 8:00pm
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 7:05am |
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Nice pictures, especially since they center around "family togetherness". From what I understand about black walnut trees, They are very valuable for gunstock wood. If they get a good catch, and plant some more every year, the next generation to own them won't have to work, but just keep harvesting some trees each year, and planting some new ones. Darrel
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 7:27am |
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What fun! Thanks for sharing. Great time shared with your daughter. Please keep us posted on the Walnut's progress. I love seeing the big PA rock weights on disc & the D17 still earning its keep.
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Brian G. NY
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 7:33am |
That sounds like a real investment in the future. BTW, she should avoid planting a garden too close to those black walnut trees; the leaves and nuts contain a chemical that is deadly to some vegetables.
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brkfldj
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 7:59am |
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Thanks for the pictures. I would have fun with the project. In light of your lengthly threads, the walnut plot thread has the potential for the longest ongoing yet. I look forward to many updates.
Jim
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 8:05am |
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 8:06am |
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Great pix. hope the daughter did not get a sun burn.
BTW that is one nice looking Jub. I had to have a Ford also, but it is a 50 8n since I grew up on a 47 2N.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 8:27am |
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Great pictures and a beautiful young lady plus the father-daughter time is priceless. Nice tractors too. Thanks for sharing.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 8:47am |
Thanks guys! I enjoyed seeing her use some of my old junk too! Yes this is not a short term project. She's in charge I just do what I can. Her granddaughter due in Dec this year may get to harvest some black walnut logs about 50 years from now. The time keeps going by whether we do something like this or not. So I give her credit for giving a project like this a try. Dont see many folks doing this, probably because the chances may be small that it works, and the return on investment is out there so far it look worse than a talking to a teenager about 401K's and retirement! She has visions of trees at 8 foot spacing to get nice long saw logs and smaller crowns. Now that's long term vision! I think the challenge will be the first 5 years. We will see. I may be the care taker if the nuts actually sprout and get up a ways. Yea could be a long thread!:) Regards, Chris |
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 9:27am |
Remember:The best time to plant trees is 40 years ago. Great tools for turning the soil, looks like were having a good time.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 9:53am |
yup, I'm impressed ! reminds me of some farmer I read about... he got the seedlings real cheap and a credit for planting, sons would reap the money from the nuts, and grandkids ,cash from the logs !
heck I can't plan 1 day ahead.. this guy 3 generations !!
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 12:32pm |
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We had a pastor at our church one time, that tried to get the congregation on board with him to put in black walnut trees, in order to secure the financial stability of the parish for future generations. No one really bit on the idea, and it went by the wayside. Looking back now, if our church would have done it then, we'd now be about 20 to 25 years into it. Darrel
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 2:16pm |
Thanks guys for the support! I will let Kelly know! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 7:43pm |
 darrel in ND wrote:
Nice pictures, especially since they center around "family togetherness". From what I understand about black walnut trees, They are very valuable for gunstock wood. If they get a good catch, and plant some more every year, the next generation to own them won't have to work, but just keep harvesting some trees each year, and planting some new ones. Darrel |
I have some nice Black Walnut trees can't find a buyer
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Posted: 26 Aug 2018 at 7:47pm |
Brian G. NY wrote:
That sounds like a real investment in the future.BTW, she should avoid planting a garden too close to those black walnut trees; the leaves and nuts contain a chemical that is deadly to some vegetables. |
About the only thing that will grow under a Black Walnut is Raspberries they seem immune to the chemical the trees put out.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 11:07am |
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Dad and I planted several Purdue Hybrid black walnuts roughly 30 years ago. They were the first of the hybrids and I think they were grafted into apple trees. I believe at the time Purdue recommended planting at 30’-50’ spacing. Also, they provided special tree shelters to keep them in a greenhouse type atmosphere for a couple of years. Purdue recommended planting pine trees among them to be harvested as Christmas trees, but we didn’t do that. I think Dad has some walnuts that are over 18” in diameter. You have to be diligent in pruning ever winter and the focus is on producing veneer grade logs.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 11:34am |
brkfldj wrote:
Thanks for the pictures. I would have fun with the project. In light of your lengthly threads, the walnut plot thread has the potential for the longest ongoing yet. I look forward to many updates.
Jim |
HAHA, I expect that one day my grandkids and Chris's Great grandkids will finally finish off this thread with some WD harvesting pictures!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 12:39pm |
Great pictures. Looks like you have taught her well. 
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Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 2:32pm |
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My 2 cents: plant them no greater than 6x6 to start. You want competition for sunlight so that they don't get limbs. Knots from limbs are defects in hardwood lumber. Thin them gradually as the years go by. Too much sun causes epicormic branching. You want tall, straight to have the most value in the end
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Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 2:46pm |
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About 30 - 40 years ago many of the land owners around me planted groves of Walnut (with the pines for the nurse trees) for that long term investment. Almost no one looked after them so now they have trees with short crooked trunks and lots of limbs. Few have a good clean 8 foot logs in them. Know that if you expect these to be valuable for lumber, they will take a lot of work pruning, maybe staking some to grow straight, and thinning as they get larger. Else, your heirs will just get nuts and logs of little value. There are a few plantings that look great, one can tell they have been tended to regularly.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 8:11am |
Steve and Steve, Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I agree that this will be the hardest part keeping them maintained! Good examples noted. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 11:50am |
Great pictures and story! Your daughter doesn't look old enough to have a granddaughter due in December.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 8:18pm |
John, Kel is young and young and heart too! Her mom and I are looking forward to her son Mike's first born, Chloe arriving in mid December. That will be our third great grand child. Hope to be around for all of them to drive some of these old orange tractors! Regards, Chris
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