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kevinwheat
Bronze Level Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Location: Indiana Points: 2 |
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Posted: 01 Feb 2012 at 6:37am |
I just bought a D14 in nice shape but hasnt run in 7 years. My first question is according to the serial number which is 23911 it is 12v, but when i bought it I was told it was 6v. It didnt come with a battery or a voltage regulator so how do I tell? My second question is the carbuertor hose that is hard plastic has a hole in it and I'm not sure where to find one, any thoughts or does anyone have one? Any other suggestions would also be appreciated.
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Charlie175
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6351 |
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I thought they were 12V?
Also what Plastic hose would be there? The intake is metal (Except for a rubber connector piece) as is the fuel line.
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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Dave Richards (WV)
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fairmont, WV Points: 877 |
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The 14s started out as 6v, I understand that some later ones were 12. Check the data tag on your generator it should say. And maybe the data tag on the Starter if the generator was replaced with an alternator like mine. If the tags don't say, you can still research the model number on them.
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Bolivar Boy
Orange Level Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Location: wooster, ohio Points: 641 |
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kevin. i think the limited run of 14's were all 6 volt. a large number were converted to 12 however because of starting issues, especially in cold weather. most were converted to a 1 wire 12 volt alternator charging system yet retained the 6 volt starter. the old 6 volt starter would take the additional voltage without issue and really spin the little mouse motor quite well. if your 14 has an alternator instead of a generator you can be pretty certain its a 12 volt system. a few 12 volt generators were installed by owners but that is the exception to the rule.
since the 14's came out they were cussed and discussed. lack of power, weight etc. i still infer that the selling dealer had a lot to do with ones attitude towards this great tractor. to often the d 14 was touted as a replacement for the wd 45 when in reality the 14 was a replacement for the ca. if money was an issue, it always was and still is, the dealer would back off the d17 and low ball grandpa on a 14 to replace his wd or 45. the old bait and switch tactic. worked well till grandpa dropped a 3x14 in the ground or belted up to a silo blower. still a fantastic little orange piece though with all the toys the bigger d series tractors had. enjoy........!
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Don M SEIA
Silver Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Danville, Iowa Points: 119 |
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D14s changed to 12volt at # 19001. From the factory they were Positive Ground, but could have been changed to negitive ground.
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Kevin,welcome to the best tractor site on the web and great choice in a very useful tractor. What ever you do, once your new battery is installed, you need to polarize the generator BEFORE starting the engine. That is if it has a generator. Generators can charge positive or negative ground and need to be polarized to charge the right way.If you happen to get it hooked up the way it was, it still can't hurt to polarize the genny.
Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 01 Feb 2012 at 10:45am |
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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I don't know about the carb hose, but while you are getting things figured out, you can squit a couple shots of oil or transmission fluid in each cylinder. Also before you try to crank it, it might pay to check out the starter and flywheel. Mice have a way of packing that whole compartment with all kinds of stuff and it's better to check it out than find out it's crammed full when it won't turn over. My G had only sat 2 years and I could fill a 5 gallon bucket up with what I pulled out of that area. Also the starter was stuck from mouse pee. The previous owner thought the engine was stuck!!It can't hurt to clean and change the oil in the air breather too.
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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Youo can run it without the hose tempoarily. Ned to get it running first. Probably 6v, but 12v will work, will just turn over faster. You will need a large resister in the 12v wire to the coil, may already be one there, folow the wire back to the switch. It may already have a 12v coil.
There is a plate under the bell housing the snaps in, I'm thinking about 3" diameter. Just thin metal. Remove this plate to remove mouse debris that a previous poster mentioned.
I love my D14, if you want, PM me with any questions.
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Ky.Allis
Orange Level Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Points: 971 |
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My dad had a D-14 back in the 60's and it came from factory 12 volt with generator. At the time,it was my favorite to use. It had narrow front and power steering and was the perfect tractor to pull 7' haybine. Thru the 70's and 80's I mowed hundreds of acres of hay with it. Low to the ground and easy to get on and off made it made it my choice over the WD45 or H farmall. Good luck with your tractor!!!!!
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HagerAC
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1184 |
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At that serial number it should definitley be a 12V. There should also be a voltage regulator under the tank that will tell you if its 6V or 12V.
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Chalmersbob
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 2122 |
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Kevin, WELCOME TO THE FORUM. You can get any question about AC answered here.
I bought a D15 that had a 6 volt battery in it. I checked the regulator, it was 12 volt and pulled a headlight and it was 12 volt. So now it has a 12 volt battery in it. My D14 is an early one with a 6 volt battery, well actually it has an 8 volt battery right now, after an engine rebuild. I hope to switch it to 6 volt this summer. Your D14 should have a 12 volt battery in it. Good luck with your D14, great tractor. Bob Edited by Chalmersbob - 01 Feb 2012 at 9:56pm |
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7205 |
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AGCO carries the hose the goes from the air cleaner to the carb. I've had to buy a couple for my D14s. As others have said, given your serial number, your electrical system should be 12 volts.
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