Isky cam specs

mgburchard wrote: Larry the cam you have has less than 230 lift .You can see this right awayif you look at the heel then rotate the cam you will see where the lifter rises up the lash ramp then drops off in a valley where lash opens back up then starts closing and rising looks a lot like the ramp cranky shows in the 175 can specs topic. If you believe a engine and a air compressor are the same you will love that cam it has -5 overlap . Pankey said he hated it worse can he ever had cause he builds engine not air compressors

So are you telling me that the Barney cam you traded to me is a junk piece?

The cam Pankey traded Larry came from the late jt Richardson it was the smallest cam of the two grinds . If you are of the believe that you should close the intake valve at bdc you will love it . If your of the belief that you need overlap cause air has momentum and can fill the cylinder even with piston rising then you will hate it. Tom yes I knew as well as Pankey that the valve events but with a little math it can be figured and if degreeing a cam in block its easier to measure events at .050 so we assume its .050 knowing that it would be greater than the actual valve lash . Only way Pankey would know for sure is to can Dr. A actual 175 cam and the only person who has one is you.

Larry who spec the cam you traded to Mitch since you know who spec the cam he traded you . Call barney I think you'll find he likes overlap .however we know nelson doesn't cause he was bragging about recamming a motor barney had done with his camshaft instead of barns . after all nelson gone he got the info on ICL so now he can follow in Pankey footsteps

Edited by mgburchard - 11 May 2015 at 8:16am

mgburchard wrote: Larry who spec the cam you traded to Mitch since you know who spec the cam he traded you . Call barney I think you'll find he likes overlap .however we know nelson doesn't cause he was bragging about recamming a motor barney had done with his camshaft instead of barns . after all nelson gone he got the info on ICL so now he can follow in Pankey footsteps

A local guy speced that cam and to talk to him, we need to dig him up. He may not say much though.

mgburchard wrote: Larry who spec the cam you traded to Mitch since you know who spec the cam he traded you . Call barney I think you'll find he likes overlap .however we know nelson doesn't cause he was bragging about recamming a motor barney had done with his camshaft instead of barns . after all nelson gone he got the info on ICL so now he can follow in Pankey footsteps

I don't suppose it would do any good to explain the asymmetrical lobe pattern i put in would it.

First it is a Pank grind and a deeply held speed secrete then it transformed to a standard Richardson grind and now a Barney Taylor cam??? 

mgburchard wrote: Larry who spec the cam you traded to Mitch since you know who spec the cam he traded you . Call barney I think you'll find he likes overlap .however we know nelson doesn't cause he was bragging about recamming a motor barney had done with his camshaft instead of barns . after all nelson gone he got the info on ICL so now he can follow in Pankey footsteps

Sorry for my stupidity, but who is Nelson?

Butch(OH) wrote: First it is a Pank grind and a deeply held speed secrete then it transformed to a standard Richardson grind and now a Barney Taylor cam???  I think it is a Chameleon cam since it changes by the hour.  Larry, Fowler is out of buisiness last I new, check with Terry Shade at Belleville   Last I knew Cam Dr was not a machine but a computer program that is used with shop built stands and user supplied inputs for linear and rotational motion. (To save head scratching and stupid posts that's up and down and round and round Pank.)  They maybe building complete units now? When set up correctly it will chart a camshaft.  To check a single camshaft charting can be done at home. Easiest if installed in a short block.  All you need is a degree wheel, a dial indicator, graph paper and about a half hour to plot the readings. Then you can proudly boast that your tractor has a charted camshaft in it,,whoa!!  Be sure to let us know all about how it ramps up, then goes back down, then ramps up again like the Tennessee two step,

Not only did it come from Richardson, it came from Barney, then it is one pank specked out......it's one pank used, didn't use. It's the best cam ever, then in another statement its the worst cam ever. Then it's an asymmetrical lobe patten, but only in the first few thousandths of lift where it's taking the valve lash up, and get this it only has .230 of lift.

Hey BArney, your 2 cents worth?

Now a long dwell creates a small combustion chamber? REALLY? So by changing the length of the rod, you can change the size of the combustion chamber? Please expound on this, I can't wait to see how this latest twist develops into another case of Pankeys foot in mouth disease. Geometry is geometry and dimensions are dimensions, and how long it takes for the piston to accelerate and decelerate has absolutely no bearing on where it stops at TDC. 

mgburchard wrote: Larry the cam you have has less than 230 lift .You can see this right awayif you look at the heel then rotate the cam you will see where the lifter rises up the lash ramp then drops off in a valley where lash opens back up then starts closing and rising looks a lot like the ramp cranky shows in the 175 can specs topic. If you believe a engine and a air compressor are the same you will love that cam it has -5 overlap . Pankey said he hated it worse can he ever had cause he builds engine not air compressors

You stated in a different thread that you (pank) specked out the cam he gave Larry. Now you state low lift (.230) and -5* of overlap.

Well a bone stock cam has 16 degrees of overlap. Dr's specs say 3* btdc intake opening to 13* Atdc e haist closing.    

To get less overlap, you would have to grind lesser duration, and/or change the lobe separation angles dramatically. Why on earth would you do that?

How and why would you ground a cam with 21 degrees less overlap......then in this thread you say it's something Richardson did for Taylor. 2 well respected people in these engines. Your story is conflicting, your math is wrong. Or you've lied so many times, you forgot what you were lying about.    

I've never spec a can .Pankey and can grinder does that

Huh how long does it take to grind a can? days? Or does it depend on what kind of pop it was

mgburchard wrote: mgburchard wrote: I've never spec a can .Pankey and can grinder does that nelson I thought you don't like overlap being from duration now your asking why a can would have less than 21 degrees . So your in a agreement that they need more than 21 degrees of overlap from a tighter LSA

You seam to invent more things I said as you go.  Read page 1 again and see if you can grasp more than half of what I said, and don't make up your own version....use your best 5th grade reading comprehension skills.

What I'm curious on here are the conflicting stories of pank.  He designed the cam, then he got the cam from Barney who got it from Richardson.  Then the cam is junk and has 21 degrees less overlap than a bone stock cam does, and it only has .230 lift.  So let me lay it out like this,

1. You lie and don't even know what you lie about. (proven)

2. Pank can't measure, doesn't know what the numbers mean, or didn't know what the specs were. (highly likely)

3. Pank knew the specs and would willingly pass off bad parts on to someone unsuspecting (I have no doubt pank would do that, but I doubt he knew the specs, if he were smart and/or honest he would have scrapped it)

4. JT and Barney didn't know what they were doing and made junk.  (2 well respected people on these engines passed off junk (not likely at all).  If the cam was the specs pank listed here, Larry's engine would make about 15 hp on a good day, and it runs better than that.

Now lets get back to this fuel injection.  Or is pank to busy at his MUFON convention reporting UFO sightings to cover more on mechanical fuel injection?

Pankey traded a cam he doesn't like for a cam that Larry didn't like even trade both traded for something in hopes of liking .Larry provided no specs to Pankey . Pankey told Larry it was a can for small cubic inches. As for Pankeys grind its been around since 1960 and is very common but not assymetrical . No where near like the one cranky posted picture of however the one Larry got its lobe looks a lot like the image cranky provided in the 175 specs. Butch look at it if you can't understand up lash ramp down in valley and back up hill .