If Massey Ferguson is so big....

I think the audience for those tractors is not the same as US or others. It's like asking about who makes the most motorcycles and the answer is Asia with machines that are never exported. At one time I think the most popular motorcycle in the world might have been a Yamaha 200 2-stroke street bike. You would see as many as 30 at any given stop light in Singapore or Malaysia.

I can think of one MF tractor near me and it's setting in weeds with the motor locked up. But we do have an old #9 massey baler that we use if that counts. They sure weren't popular here. I have heard they have been top selling tractor in the world since the 60's.

go to europe, they're huge over there

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Massey utiity tractors, TO-30 and 35, the 50 and 65 are popular around here. People here are ok with Massey. I have been told Allis dealers were in short supply around here back then, so we don't have a large allis crowd. I never looked for a Massey forum.

LOTS OF MASSEYS IN FLORIDA ALSO

we had a strong massey dealer in my hometown for yrs. he's gone now. tractors never caught on but every farm had a massey combine!

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Sorry for people in them foreign country's, they don't know any better. MACK

There have always been a few Masseys around here but not the most popular by any means. There was a pretty good dealer about 18 miles east of me, went under about 15 years ago. I had a Massey #10 baler and then a 124 which was a good machine, not as good as a Hesston but it baled a lot of hay. I remember seeing quite a few MF tractors in Greece when I was stationed there 40 some years ago.

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Yes lots of small Masseys around here, I have had several MF garden tractors, There were a few strong dealers, and quite a few of their combines running around but they haven't had any strength in the AG market locally since the early 1980's and ever since Deere and CaseIH have dominated. Now you have to go 100 miles to find a Massey Dealer. I read somewhere that Mahindra now claiming to be #1 worldwide.

10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments

I've got a Ferg. She's purdy.

1957 WD45 dad's first AC

1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson

I used to sell Messy Fergusons a few years ago.......and yes I do mean Messy. I would not personally own one of the tractors I used to sell. Messy Ferguson "claimed" the title of number one based on the fact that they believed that there were more MFs actually still being used in ag production currently worldwide than any other brand. That takes into consideration all these third world countries where for years the only tractor available was a MF 35, 50, 65, 135, 165, etc, etc.... Well 30 or 40 years later all these tractors are still being patched up and used to produce meager amounts of food and they call it ag production and thus MF says "Hey, we're number one." AGCO people told me face to face though that as far as "real" production and tractor numbers go John Deere and CaseNH (Ford, Case, IH, Farmall etc) both have more tractors out there actually doing work than MF.

As far as North American numbers go AGCO is barely a player in the compact market since they have less than 5% marketshare amongst all their brands. As far as utilities and larger tractors go I think AGCO holds about 10-15% marketshare, but that has been declining as well. As far as Mahindra's claim goes they claim to be number one because they are are the fastest growing tractor brand in the world's fastest growing country (India) so they make the claim number one. However, as far as actual production goes Mahindra is actually about number 7 or 8 as far as real tractor production. Across the board though really the only two major players anymore are John Deere and Kubota.

Almost 8 out of every 10 compacts sold are either a John Deere or Kubota. Almost 7 out of 10 utilitiy tractors sold are either John Deere or Kubota. These numbers are based off of UCC and warranty filing data taken over the past few years. I now sell John Deere tractors and equipment and I would have no problems buying a new John Deere. John Deere's tend to stay out in the field doing work, while most of the MFs I sold spent more time in the shop than on the farm.

Edited by Adam in VA - 22 Oct 2011 at 10:58am

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Next county to the south has three Massey dealers in it and another siting on the county line. Two of the dealers are holding on by less than a thread and the other in county one has been in that location less than a year but appears to have the potential to make some waves they have a few died hard green and red people looking at Massey's very hard.

A lot of those old Massey's were made by TAFE, out of India, for Massey so does that count? LOL

Adam in VA. Masseys are in the shop more then the field?! I know you compete against them selling Deere but that strains your credibility.

Just a hint, I myself never cared for salesmen that made outlandish claims. I figure if they BS me on one thing, they will on another. Might want to tone it down with your customers! You will succeed better for it!

Just got in from setting up the knives on my MF silage chopper...but I think it is made by Fox. We had one just like it when I was a kid, chopped a lot of corn. My dad had to take a 135 diesel that came as a package deal....turned out the tractor was the best part. I bought a 135 Continental for the school farm last spring...they don't have a place to store it so I keep it here and use it to keep it limbered up. I like the tranny and high speed reverse and use it alot to move pallets with a set of forks on it. Steering is a little wishy washy and it sucks gas, but it is a comfortable and easy tractor to operate.

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