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How to determine fair cash rent for cropland |
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modirt
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Topic: How to determine fair cash rent for croplandPosted: 09 Feb 2026 at 11:57am |
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How does this sound.........three year average yield from crop insurance x three year average price from crop insurance (revenue plan basis), then 30% of whatever that number is? Or........what other methods are used?
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plummerscarin
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Posted: 09 Feb 2026 at 12:01pm |
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If you search it, your ag extension office may have a site that posts averages in your area.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 09 Feb 2026 at 12:23pm |
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Well, around here those numbers would end up being high rent. J/s.
What crops and rotation? 2 years of corn and one of beans is different than the other way around. Either way it sounds high for my area. Edited by Tbone95 - 09 Feb 2026 at 12:25pm |
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Posted: 09 Feb 2026 at 6:55pm |
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That is a tough one. So many variables go into a lease but i like 25% as a start.
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AllisFreak MN
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Posted: 09 Feb 2026 at 7:49pm |
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Ask around the neighborhood to see what others are charging / paying?
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 7 hours 58 minutes ago at 9:18am |
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I'd like to make as much as the land owner per acre. That is tricky math with no set answer.
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DanWi
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Posted: 7 hours 18 minutes ago at 9:58am |
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From the farmers point of view, rental at $400,corn at $4.00 takes 100bushels just to pay the rent. Beans at $10.oo takes 40 bushels. If you have a couple large dairies nearby they were paying over market to have land for manure and grow corn silage. But with low milk prices I wonder if that will continue although high cattle prices helps a little. We have 2 young men around her, 3 generation farmers and they have been running up rent prices grabbing whatever land they can get. They do a good job but everyone is wondering how they can do it. I was talking with a friend who runs several 1000 acres and telling him that my 20 acre cornfield looked good last year, but the wildlife life, deer turkeys and racoons did so much damage, racoons tore down big patches just as cobs were setting, it lowered my yield. Showed up on yield map while combining. Field is surrounded by other fields separated by 50ft wide tree lines. Friend said they don't like to rent and farm small fields like that because there is too much yield lose. Depends on your field size location and demand.
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AC7060IL
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Unless high yield production(HYP), guessing average county yield(ACY) averages may look like below?? HYP could add 30-50% bu to ACY top ends?? ACY 3yr numbers,,,? Corn 3yrAve ~ 170,180,190,200? Soybean ~ 40,50,60,70,80? Wheat ~ 60,70,80,90,100? Alfalfa ~ 2,2.5,3,3.5 tons/acre? How do any of those numbers lineup for your ROI? 3 yr average insurance price per bushel per crop, maybe not best approach? Right now concerns; Current soil drought conditions, current commodity prices, price of land per acre, Tariffs, global commodity supply/demand, Shift from LeNina to ElNino? Local weather forecasts, Global weather forecasts, Crop insurance options, interest rates, inflation, input costs, ROI,,,etc. In a nut shell, it’s an Extremely open set of variables? If it were me, I would not cash rent. I’d crop share contract & I’d use current prices - across the board for current year then use next years numbers for next year etc.. i’d figure my ROI levels & do the math in reverse. Then look at my numbers, consider my position, & make an educated suitable proposal. I would not cash rent in 2026-28. |
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modirt
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Posted: 1 hour 54 minutes ago at 3:22pm |
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Historically, this is going to be 220 to 250 bu corn and 60 to 70 bu beans. In past 50 to 60 years, has been on 50:50 share......so that pretty much took care of itself. But that was with active participant landlord. Transitioning to heirs that have little to no knowledge, so moving to simpler lease arrangement. Will remain share lease for 2026. After that......???? In 2024 I know of one place that was offered rents of $285 and $315 per tillable for similar land. Not sure what it went for in 2025 or is set for in 2026. The 10 year average and current year price may be a good place to start negotiations. Then decide on a percentage of gross that is fair to both sides. Fun part is new tenants (kids of long term tenant) is taking over for parents at same time as kids of landlord is taking over from their parents. Hoping it works out well for both sides. |
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 1 hour 25 minutes ago at 3:51pm |
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Modirt, congratulations of such great crop yields & a wonderful 50-60 year tenant & landlord relationship, knowledge, & experience. That speaks volumes. Nothing is guaranteed, but If the past shares towards the future, the future has a better than average chance.
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