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How old should a Antique Tractor Be? |
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Ranse ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Location: Tennessee Points: 775 |
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I ask this because The Eagleville tractor show is featuring Fords this year, so I thought I would take one of the New Hollands. They are 1996 models, which makes them 23 years old. Pretty old girls, but maybe not quite antique status yet. I know you can buy antique tags for a car at 25 years old. I'm thinking a tractor should probably be at least that old to be considered an antique (if not older). I've seen a lot of pretty modern looking tractors at tractor shows, so I believe I will take one of the New Hollands this year. They're blue, they say Ford on them, so I don't believe they will turn me away. I just don't people to think I'm foolish for bringing a newer tractor.
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jiminnd ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Rutland ND Points: 2271 |
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Lots of definitions, some are vintage and some antique. In some clubs have to be 40 or older for antique, less than that is vintage but don't know how new they can be. Here vehicles have to be 40 to be licensed as a collector.
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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I think most people consider tractors over 25 years old as antique or at least vintage, which means anything with the Allis Chalmers name on it is at least vintage. I kind of consider any Ford built before the mid '60's as antique.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8480 |
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HMMMM! My 8070 is a 84. It don't strike me as antique. Even my 56 WD45 seems modern.Maybe I'm living in the past.
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nella(Pa) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3113 |
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Gee, aren't we all????
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ac hunter ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Location: OHIO Points: 1030 |
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How about 69 years? Does that make me an antique?
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JC-WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34193 |
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Aren't 1955 models listed as 'Classic' ,,, that should make me a classy kind of a guy... ![]() Oh wait, thats reserved for them old 50's an 60's style of cars... That you can actually work on.
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Dakota Dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3964 |
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Pretty good odds they won't turn you away no matter what you bring. I've seen a quad trac show up and they started making them in 96. He did one exhibition pull since it wasn't really an antique.
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200Tom1 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jun 2019 Location: Iowa Points: 1232 |
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Older than me and I'll be 70 in Dec. But as far as antique tractor, most shows i was associated with called anything older than 1960 was antique. But that was 25 years ago. I'd bet anything older than 1980 would be old enough. Have fun
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exSW ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 21 Jul 2017 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 914 |
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Some pulling clubs make the cutoff 1958. Eliminates the 560's,730's and a few others.
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JayIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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If nothing else,it will show the evolution of Fords thru the years. A 190XT seems ancient to a 20 year old......modern by my standards. To me a 6080 is futuristic, as I never had one or could afford one.It takes all years,kinds and colors. WE are smarter. WE KNOW THE BEST COLOR!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3789 |
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As an example the cut off for antiques from NATPA is 59'. We pull 1960-1980 at our local pull and call them "classic".
Edited by CAL(KS) - 05 Aug 2019 at 9:32am |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4660 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() I make comment about the newer (well maybe I said new) something of my equipment to my son ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Has brought me to the idea: If you remember it when it was new ![]() A good example, ![]() ![]() Cal or others that are into pulling why put a age limit on the old end?
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10611 |
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When there was tractor dealers around we used to get the deal of the model we was featuring to bring out a new tractor so people could compare the difference
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JayIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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Back when I was "cool" (1975) I had a short bed big window 62 Chevy pickup. Painted up brown and gold. It was old . 13 years. Looked cool. The talk of the town. It was considered OLD. Fast forward to today. I have a 97 C20 with 227,000 miles.on it. It is 22 years old . Good shape. Drive it every day. Only truck that I have. Now I am just some old bearded fart in a crappy old.white truck.
I'm not cool any more. Just some dirt bag in a regular cab Chev. What.happened? |
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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exSW ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 21 Jul 2017 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 914 |
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Edited by exSW - 05 Aug 2019 at 8:14pm |
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85532 |
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tractor PULL would be one thing..... Tractor SHOW is for everyone... I personally would like to see a 1996 FORD along side a 8N and 4600 to show the progress thru the years.
I say 4600 because we bought one a few months ago with a 6 ft bushhog for mowing the Boys farm... I told him it was ALMOST NEW............. He says, DAD !! its as old as I am !! ( he is 39)...But it runs GREAT and does a GREAT job. Edited by steve(ill) - 05 Aug 2019 at 9:10pm |
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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ya'll are antique, cept that creston feller
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8480 |
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There was a time when the girls looked my way. Father time knocked that in the head! Just as well.
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3789 |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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LouSWPA ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Clinton, Pa Points: 24689 |
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Steve, a few years back I got off an elevator into a rather dimly lit, lonely, parking garage and headed for the truck. Pretty quick I met a well dressed, very nice looking young lady. As we pass, she looked me straight in the face and smiled and said Hi or good evening or something like that, Now I was taken aback! I'm not used to that! My experience up until then, under such circumstances, the lady would look down, and rush past a quick as possible. I understand that, what I didn't understand was this lady's reaction...….and then it hit me! She did not view me as a threat! I was a harmless old man in her eyes!!! I been seeing more and more of that, young women, looking me in the face while talking to me....often offering to help me with something. The FedEx girl keeps insisting on carry my heavier boxes to the truck for me!!! I asked my wife, Do I look that old? she said no, but then again, she is as old as me, her vision and judgment is shot too! |
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Ranse ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Location: Tennessee Points: 775 |
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Thanks for all the comments and opinions guys. I thinks it's safe to say my New Holland tractors are not antiques. Now my question is, What's the difference between classic and vintage? lol!
At any rate, I think the Ford/New Holland merger was around '94. So I believe my tractor will be a good representative of that time period. That's my argument anyway, and I'm sticking to it. |
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