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How old should a Antique Tractor Be?

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    Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 9:23pm
I ask this because The Eagleville tractor show is featuring Fords this year, so I thought I would take one of the New Hollands. They are 1996 models, which makes them 23 years old. Pretty old girls, but maybe not quite antique status yet. I know you can buy antique tags for a car at 25 years old. I'm thinking a tractor should probably be at least that old to be considered an antique (if not older). I've seen a lot of pretty modern looking tractors at tractor shows, so I believe I will take one of the New Hollands this year. They're blue, they say Ford on them, so I don't believe they will turn me away. I just don't people to think I'm foolish for bringing a newer tractor.
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Lots of definitions, some are vintage and some antique. In some clubs have to be 40 or older for antique, less than that is vintage but don't know how new they can be. Here vehicles have to be 40 to be licensed as a collector.
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I think most people consider tractors over 25 years old as antique or at least vintage, which means anything with the Allis Chalmers name on it is at least vintage.  I kind of consider any Ford built before the mid '60's as antique.
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HMMMM! My 8070 is a 84. It don't strike me as antique. Even my 56 WD45 seems modern.Maybe I'm living in the past.
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

HMMMM! Maybe I'm living in the past.


Gee, aren't we all????Cry


Edited by nella(Pa) - 04 Aug 2019 at 4:46am
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     How about 69 years? Does that make me an antique?
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Aren't 1955 models listed as 'Classic' ,,,  that should make me a classy kind of a guy... Ermm
  Oh wait, thats reserved for them old 50's an 60's style of cars... That you can actually work on. LOL
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Pretty good odds they won't turn you away no matter what you bring. I've seen a quad trac show up and they started making them in 96. He did one exhibition pull since it wasn't really an antique.

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Older than me and I'll be 70 in Dec. But as far as antique tractor, most shows i was associated with called anything older than 1960 was antique. But that was 25 years ago. I'd bet anything older than 1980 would be old enough. Have fun

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Some pulling clubs make the cutoff 1958. Eliminates the 560's,730's and a few others.
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If nothing else,it will show the evolution of Fords thru the years. A 190XT seems ancient to a 20 year old......modern by my standards. To me a 6080 is futuristic, as I never had one or could afford one.It takes all years,kinds and colors. WE are smarter. WE KNOW THE BEST COLOR!
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As an example the cut off for antiques from NATPA  is 59'.  We pull 1960-1980 at our local pull and call them "classic".

Edited by CAL(KS) - 05 Aug 2019 at 9:32am
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I make comment about the newer (well maybe I said new) something of my equipment to my son Wink .....an I get its older than me. Cry Mind you its all most all 1970's vintage with more from the 50's than 80's.LOL But most works good.Clap Some with real improvements for local conditions.LOL



Has brought me to the idea:  If you remember it when it was new Wink it's still almost new just somewhat used. But if you only remember as a kid the paint was faded and welds an dents an now your an adult it is just more wore out junk. 

A good example,Wink I learned to drive mostly in a 48 and 49 F6 trucks spoting them so combine could dump at both ends of the field. I now have a 75 Loadstar 1700. It has power steering, synrow transmission, electric 2 speed and twice as much hp. But its twice as old as those I learned on, but I don't think of it as old.LOL



Cal or others that are into pulling why put a age limit on the old end?
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When there was tractor dealers around we used to get the deal of the model we was featuring to bring out a new tractor so people could compare the difference 
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Back when I was "cool" (1975) I had a short bed big window 62 Chevy pickup. Painted up brown and gold. It was old . 13 years. Looked cool. The talk of the town. It was considered OLD.      Fast forward to today. I have a 97 C20 with 227,000 miles.on it. It is 22 years old . Good shape. Drive it every day. Only truck that I have. Now I am just some old bearded fart in a crappy old.white truck.
I'm not cool any more. Just some dirt bag in a regular cab Chev. What.happened?



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Originally posted by JayIN JayIN wrote:

Back when I was "cool" (1975) I had a short bed big window 62 Chevy pickup. Painted up brown and gold. It was old . 13 years. Looked cool. The talk of the town. It was considered OLD.      Fast forward to today. I have a 97 C20 with 227,000 miles.on it. It is 22 years old . Good shape. Drive it every day. Only truck that I have. Now I am just some old bearded fart in a crappy old.white truck.
I'm not cool any more. Just some dirt bag in a regular cab Chev. What.happened?



When I was a broke College student I had an seven year ok pickup with 65,000 miles on it. Thrirty five years later I'm drive a 12 year old Honda with 340,000 miles. What happened? My 7010 was brand new when I was a senior in HS.

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tractor PULL would be one thing..... Tractor SHOW is for everyone... I personally would like to see a 1996 FORD along side a 8N and 4600 to show the progress thru the years.
 
 
I say 4600 because we bought one a few months ago with a 6 ft bushhog for mowing the Boys farm... I told him it was ALMOST NEW............. He says, DAD !! its as old as I am !!  ( he is 39)...But it runs GREAT and does a GREAT job.


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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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ya'll are antique, cept that creston feller
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There was a time when the girls looked my way. Father time knocked that in the head! Just as well.
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

ya'll are antique, cept that creston feller
Hey, i came off the assembly line a couple years before the 8000 series  Angry

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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

There was a time when the girls looked my way. Father time knocked that in the head! Just as well.


Steve, a few years back I got off an elevator into a rather dimly lit, lonely, parking garage and headed for the truck. Pretty quick I met a well dressed, very nice looking young lady. As we pass, she looked me straight in the face and smiled and said Hi or good evening or something like that, Now I was taken aback! I'm not used to that! My experience up until then, under such circumstances, the lady would look down, and rush past a quick as possible. I understand that, what I didn't understand was this lady's reaction...….and then it hit me! She did not view me as a threat! I was a harmless old man in her eyes!!!
I been seeing more and more of that, young women, looking me in the face while talking to me....often offering to help me with something. The FedEx girl keeps insisting on carry my heavier boxes to the truck for me!!! I asked my wife, Do I look that old? she said no, but then again, she is as old as me, her vision and judgment is shot too!
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Thanks for all the comments and opinions guys. I thinks it's safe to say my New Holland tractors are not antiques. Now my question is, What's the difference between classic and vintage? lol!

At any rate, I think the Ford/New Holland merger was around '94. So I believe my tractor will be a good representative of that time period. That's my argument anyway, and I'm sticking to it.
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