How much smoke is too much???

I found a 5015 that I may go look at.  I talked to the guy that is selling it for a friends.  He said it will smoke for a minute or so when it's started.  Is that too long for that model tractor?  It's showing about 770 hours on the meter; no the meter does not roll over at 999....they will go past 1,000  I asked about the smoke and what color it was...black...white...blue.  He said it was a mix of all.  That got me to thinking that wasn't too good.  Then he said he believed that the owner would use ether sometimes to start it.  The part about the ether make me want to run away.  Should I do so?  The asking price is a little over $2,000.  I know parts can sometime be hard to find for a 5015.

Edited by OrangePowerGA - 01 Aug 2012 at 7:15pm

I don't know much about that model, but if it is a diesel white smoke usually indicates bad injectors, allot of times they will stick when they are first started until the oil gets warmed up and builds pressure in the injector. But the blue smoke is not a good sign at all, that's usually oil being burnt.

OrangePowerGA wrote: I found a 5015 that I may go look at.  I talked to the guy that is selling it for a friends.  He said it will smoke for a minute or so when it's started.  Is that too long for that model tractor?  It's showing about 770 hours on the meter; no the meter does not roll over at 999....they will go past 1,000  I asked about the smoke and what color it was...black...white...blue.  He said it was a mix of all.  That got me to thinking that wasn't too good.  Then he said he believed that the owner would use ether sometimes to start it.  The part about the ether make me want to run away.  Should I do so?  The asking price is a little over $2,000.  I know parts can sometime be hard to find for a 5015.     The tractor is about 100 miles away from me; I don't want to waste my time if you guys think it would be a bad idea to buy that machine.   Thanks!

farmtoybuilder wrote: DL you got Lucky using starting fluid on it! Have redone quite a few little Japanese diesels because of it. I would defiantly check out the motor before buying, As you can spent $3000 or more due to high cost of parts if you can find them. They are a Great little tractor, But lack of parts and high cost most of us buy a different brand if using it every week. I love our AC's But we use JD&Kubota's for our everyday use tractors.

Sorry I should have thought before I wrote my 1st post to DickL  on using starting fluid-ether.  And Don said it ALL in his last post, using it "CORRECTLY" Not many owners of these compacts know much about them!  Most just know where to put fuel, check oil, turn key and start it. :) Some do a little maintence grease, change engine oil check things. But most just run them all season and then call us to come service it each season, others wait until it quits or has a problem. We've had some fill them with gas. And wonder why it quite running!

 

Edited by farmtoybuilder - 02 Aug 2012 at 3:38pm

I made an error in my original post.  The tractor only has about 470 hours on it.  After thinking for a while, if the hours are correct, that tractor should start right up and run like a top!

Edited by OrangePowerGA - 02 Aug 2012 at 4:43pm

Its ok, those have Allis paint but aren't really allis tractors anyway

Yup, Thats what I said! The heaters can be good but if they loose there connection from corrosion or the thumb nut gets loose they will not preheat. If you don't preheat enough they will smoke on startup for a few seconds because it draws in fuel that does not ignite before starting. With 440 hours I sure would snap it up if I had a need for one that size.  In the summer time I count slowly to 40 before trying to start my 9523/5020. In the winter I count to 100 before trying to start.If I was to look at that tractor I would take a volt meter with me and make sure the preheaters were working before trying to start it. When the switch was turned to preheat and if it didn't have power to the heaters I would rig a jumper wire to the heaters.  Also after the engine warms up it should start without preheat after shutting off.