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    Posted: 01 Jan 2012 at 6:33pm
the first of my winter projects.....decided to fabricate a new battery box for the WD, much more fun and 1/4 the cost of a new one, in my book fabricating is the way to go if you have the tools, much nicer and cheaper than aftermarket and you can build it better than original. anyone else doing any fabricating?





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1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow
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 WHERE IS THE CLIPS FOR THE IGN.BOX??????????  OURBOXES ARE $70.00 EA. + RIDE  1-800-254-3116 with 4 clips an a grounding hole
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Nice job Bill, looks real good! We make ours too.
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Originally posted by norm[ind norm[ind wrote:

] WHERE IS THE CLIPS FOR THE IGN.BOX??????????  OURBOXES ARE $70.00 EA. + RIDE  1-800-254-3116 with 4 clips an a grounding hole
i knew someone would mention that, haven't quite finished it yet just got the cover done tonight, probably have the dash mounted by next weekend...BTW only have about $20 in it so far for steel but it takes a good amount of work, I won't be stealin anyone's business anytime soon!


Edited by Bill_MN - 01 Jan 2012 at 6:58pm
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Now all you gotta do is make one out of stainless and you got something!  Better make two, I need one also.  LOL  NICE job.  The satisfaction is worth more than anything.
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looks good!
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Very nice!
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looks good. 


I was thinking someone had been trying to sell stainless boxes for the B/C for a while.  wonder if they ever sold all them
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Looking good. Nothing beats the satisfaction of building something yourself.
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Thats nice work. Our 1948 C battery box was replaced in 1980.
I made my own from steel. The bottom of that one is now rotted
out. I have cobbled a cedar shingle as the botton. So the original lasted
32 years, my homemade replacement just 21 years.
Any tricks to making a battery box last 'forever"?
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Math error, replacement lasted 32 years also.
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Originally posted by BrianC BrianC wrote:

Any tricks to making a battery box last 'forever"?
 
   Don't put a battery in it ?
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that brings up another interesting point, if you keep the battery good and clean and maintained it really shouldn't hurt the box, maybe I'm wrong? I am also debating whether to coat the inside with a spray-in bedliner type coating or some other resistant paint, anyone ever tried this?

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Now that is a good idea Bill.  Wonder if it will work?
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I sprayed the inside of my battery box in my CA over 28 years ago with spray bomb undercoating. Let it set up for 2 or 3 days and installed the battery and several batteries since and the box is still in great shape.
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I installed just a rubber liner for the floor of the Battery box in my Tractors, and so far, no problems. My B's resto has been done for 11 years now, and the box is still in nice shape. Still using the 6V system...
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It seems like I'm always fabricating something,  nothing like making it yourself if you can. You got a nice battery box there.
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I built one for my Dad's WD 45 in '73 for a shop class project and it is still going strong. He owned that tractor for 22 years and I have owned it for 23. Man, time flies I guess! I think it helps a lot ifyou dont let it overcharge and boil over .
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Larry(OH),  Steve Jelf who posts on this forum did have some SS battery boxes for sale.
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made one out of .060 18/8 stainless for my 45 diesel loks and works real good.have 2 more in the mfg.stage for my other 2 45 diesels...
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That is very Beautiful Work BILL . I love it
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Your battery box looks good to me. There is alot of work to what you have there. At 78 years young, dad says the rocks are heavier now, so I built him a rock box out of an old JD skidloader for his 4WD NH. He can lower to the ground and roll in rocks, then raise it up again. Last thing I built was an extra sliding step on the on the rear door on the Gleaner R76. I might not sound like much, but it took a bunch of tries to make it strong, and to still fit in the space, and most of all, work.
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I added pieces of plastic office chair mats for over carpet. In my battery box, had to make box larger to accommodate for the thick mats.

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That brings up the question.... What to do about today's taller batteries? Seems some prevent the top from fitting snugly, and require something to insulate the terminals from the metal cover?
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I know Fred Wilke's battery boxes are made slightly taller for modern batteries, and he includes a masonite sheet to line the underside of the cover. I made my box the original size and cut a piece of 1/4" plywood to fit underneath the cover but on top of the edge of the battery box, so the wing nuts clamp down on it. The cover is insulated and there is still about 1/4 inch of space above the battery posts.
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I use a piece of a "insulated rubber blanket" that we use at work.  It is tested for 12kv and about 1/4 in thick.  Once they have a cut or hole in it, I can get one and cut it to fit.  They are 36x36


Steve, I bet you can get some from the electrical test lab at your work
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I have an Allis Chalmers CA 1955 that my Dad bought new and it still has the original battery book and in good shape. We have always brushed the inside of the box with used motor oil. It seems to stop the rust.
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Larry,
Yes! You're correct! I forgot about those. The one's the lineman use are even Orange! How bout' that.....!  Hmmmm.....
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