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Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 12:03pm |
Putting rocker arm assembly back on it looks as if I should nut arms down then nut baffle down the put on rocker cover but if I do it like that then the cover hits on baffle nut I’ve seen pics of a baffle that’s different and is no nuts between the baffle and rocker arms but when I tried that arms hit cover. As seen in pics there is not a slot near oil line like the other baffle I have seen. Also I don’t have enough nuts to do the baffle after bolting arms down. What am I missing I’m having a brain fart. Books and movies don’t show nut in between  
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Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 12:05pm |
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But have seen photo where there is nut under baffle and slot for oil line
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Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 12:56pm |
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baffle on first then rocker arm shaft. you need to turn the baffle upside down from how you're trying it.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 3:14pm |
I will see if I can find a picture of what I did.
Hope these may help a little?? I did have a mix of WD and WD45 parts. Now I dont think I had nuts under the baffles? But my baffle looks different than yours? Did you change anything else? And Is this the baffle that came off this engine?
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 17 Dec 2019 at 3:19pm
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Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 3:45pm |
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Yes this is the one that came with it. Paul b says it should go on upside down then rocker arm shaft and have baffles stick up. I’ve never seen one like that but will have to try tomorrow. After thinking about it that would probably work since it is flat and has a lip when upside down would make oil drip down pushrods holes but still make a wall to keep rocker oil away from valves.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 9:18pm |
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No nuts between baffle and rocker arm stands.
Baffle cannot be turned up side down. MACK
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Posted: 18 Dec 2019 at 12:23am |
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I tried up side down won’t work it’s not wide enough you would crush the bend in it if you did it and wouldn’t sit flat. must have nuts in between. the pic right above this there is recesses I guess you would say where the nut goes. Mine is flat if there was not nut to hold it up you would mash it all to hell and would sit on arms and cause big problem. I noticed the valve cover holes where smooshed in a little so popped it back out and did nut under baffle but on top of rocker arm assembly and then did a nut on top of baffle and went back together perfectly after adjusting the valve cover
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Posted: 18 Dec 2019 at 12:32am |
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If you look in very first pic at top of this conversation. Look at gap between oil tube and baffle then look at nut the nut is twice as big as gap so must be held up. I just don’t know what I did with the second set of nuts cause I had to find 4 to hold baffle down. I did read today in a Jen sales manual that early 45 motors that the valve cover must touch and hold it down (baffle) Maybe it was that way too. Wish I would have took a pic or remembered.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2019 at 12:38am |
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But I guess if you didn’t put a nut on top of baffle and maybe a washer then cranked the valve cover down it would hold it
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Posted: 18 Dec 2019 at 12:49am |
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Ok sorry for all the babbling. Read Jen sales manual again it says old style I assume mine used pal nuts to hold on baffle. So put rocker assembly on and nut down. Then put baffle on top of nuts and hold that down with pal nuts. Pal nut is stamp steel thin nut looking thing. I had 3 left over and did know where they where from and put them in a box with old parts and forgot about them till reading this. Well learned something. It also said a few of the very first 45s had no baffles but should have baffle installed after the fact.
The pal nut is also thinner so would give little more room between it and valve cover
Plus don’t know where I read about cover holding down baffle?
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Posted: 18 Dec 2019 at 6:35am |
ryan, Isn't it amazing how many variations and improvements were made on these engines. Well I am glad you found the solution. It probably only had three pal nuts any way? It doesn't have to be tight. I have lost several pieces that will turn up years from now right where I put them to be safe! Thanks for the update.
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