This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Other Topics > Shops, Barns, Varmints, and Trucks
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Heating and cooling question

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Steve A View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2012
Location: NLP Mi
Points: 199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Heating and cooling question
    Posted: 21 Jun 2021 at 10:08pm
Trying to figure out how 24 volt electromagnet relay of thermostat works in a heating and cooling system: Background is: Heat system is outside wood boiler, hot water in, then to an air handler for forced air, controlled by a standard thermostat. Central air unit on the bonnet as well. Honeywell 24 volt furnace relay. Has a simple 4 wire thermostat, works fine.   
Last year I added a Weil Mclain tankless boiler on the hot water lines coming in, thinking it could take over when I'm out of town in the winter. The tankless boiler has it's own 24 volt internal system for a thermostat, so I initially added a separate thermostat on the wall next to the first one to control it. Works but the air handler fan kicks on and off with one thermo, the boiler with the other...hard to sync the two ....I'd really like to run both off one thermostat and just shut the gas boiler off with a switch on that thermostat line when I'm not using it. Seems to me that if I put a second electromagnetic switch on the original air handler system and hook the thermostat wires from the tankless to that-- switching one side of the thermostat wire to the boiler on and off instead of the power to a blower motor- I'd solve my problem.
Will just hooking up the red/white thermostat wires with a jumper to a second relay make it function and keep the two circuits separate?   Looked for a wiring diagram of how they work internally but haven't found one yet.
thanks
     
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
steve(ill) View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: illinois
Points: 77701
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2021 at 10:37pm
here are a few versions... dont know if its yours or not.



Like them all, but love the "B"s.
Back to Top
JW in MO View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 16 Feb 2010
Location: South KC Area
Points: 2595
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JW in MO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:48am
You can accomplish that with one; two stage thermostat. The second stage heat would operate the tankless heater. Use the existing relays in each system but only the transformer of one, probably the current air handler, just exchange the 49va transformer for a 50 or 75va to handle both loads. You woul have to pull at least a 6-wire thermostat wire to the thermostat; common, R, G, Y, w1 & w2. W2 again would be the tankles system.
Maximum use of available resources!
Back to Top
Steve A View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2012
Location: NLP Mi
Points: 199
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 11:36am
Thanks! I put a 90-380 relay the air handler, to on/off the thermostat wire to the tankless boiler in conjunction with the fan. That seems to have done the trick.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.105 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum