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Also just a FYI my names Tyler. Just if people wanted to know.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Also took the tranny input to the machine shop to be shortened and have a speedy sleave on it for the seals.
Then i priced a new shaft bearing, well lets just say i will stick with the old one. Its $211 Bucks!!!!

Also I live in a little town north of Medford. So i will be wanting to pull at the local pulls around here. Like Jump River, Colby (which is a black top pull) lol i will be pulling in a lower gear.

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Medford has a great place to pull. I pulled at the fair this past summer at the county fair Saturday night, ended up all over the track and in the right break real hard. The clutch was slipping so bad on the JD B dragging me around the pits it barely got me on the scale. Looking foreward to going back there with the new engine and turbos.

Good luck on your project.   
"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Yeah i didnt go, i wish i would have but farm work comes first.

Thanks!
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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youve already got the 180 rear end.  why not fix the gear jumping and stick that in instead of blowing the 17 rear up and then having to swap?  if you fix it you know what you will have, if you swap another rear it may stay in gear for awhile, the collars probably have some rounding on the teeth, how long is it gonna hold with that kinda power?
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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The 180 gears are all rounded off. And to buy a set or gears would be as much as a different rear. I will just call up heitmans and he can hook me up with a good rear if need be. The d17 trans will hold more that what I will have for power. Plus it would be easy to swap in a different rear anyway. Dont worry yourself over how I want to build MY tractor!
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Im really enjoying this   i hope to see some videos
 
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Very cool,don't let the skeptics talk you out of it. We pulled a D17 with around 130hp for 8 years or so up to 6000# class. It is a 1957 first year made there was a chip off the back of a tooth on the pinion gear and the local senior mechanic at Allis said don't worry about it and we never had any problem with any of the drive train except motor of course. The PD never slipped a bit but it was shimmed properly in the beginning. We had to dyno it at the belt pully because the PTO was not there as we had the back housing off. We bolted a 540 splined shaft off a combine to the bely pully hub. The guy at Allis said he had to caliberate it to get accurate HP. One time at a dry,gray clay track with some gravel we had it stripped down for the 4000# class and I got to pull in 4th low and it hung in there now that was fun.
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Well I got the injection pump and injectors. 320cc worth of pump and 4x18 injectors. And goin to pick up a set of hardened,cryo, balanced rods with New ARP bolts. MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Got the rods today. Nice pieces! Plus got them pretty cheap. So thats a plus. More things to come...
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Well im doin a little change to the setup. It will be Stock D17 diesel length, but 180 frame rail width. Goin to run the rad. under the grill/weight bracket. Using a electric fan. Going to solid mount the front axle with rack and pinion steering. Havent got any pics at this time but will later.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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The 426 is bolted into the frame rails now. Using stock 301 engine mount holes. Heres some pics...






Had to cut the grill shell to fit the front cover.




Let me know what ya think.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Looking good so far


'40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie

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Thanks!!

I got the rack and pinion steering tonight. So now to make the front axle...
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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waiting for more pics looks great so far  realy appreciate the time you take to put them up for the rest of use to see
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I just got my bottom wisdom teeth pulled yesterday, so it will take me acouple days before i work on it again. I like taking pics of the stuff i do. Thanks for the complements!!!
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Well i hate sitting in the house instead of working on the d17, so i worked on the axle. Plus got afew things too.

The oil filter...


Front axle made.

I will be putting some bridging under it to heavy it up some.
Rack and pinion.

And kind of a little mock-up.

The spindles are off a old wagon the was laying around here, so it gave up its spindles.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Keep it up! Cool as he!!. THE FEW.       THE PROUD.    THE ORANGE!!!!!!
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Well not much going on yet. But i did get the bushings made for the front axle, now just to mount it up. Then i stole a hood off our series 4 d17 gas and put it on just to see what it would look like with the 426 in there. lol



Also we are bidding on 4-426's at a online auction. One of them is the counterweight crankshaft one. So im hoping we can get it. Plus get a better block than this one. This one is junk in the lower sleeve bores. It would need to be resleeved and that 60-70 bucks a hole.

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Ought to be fun. Cool project,
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Well scratch the idea of the crank and blocks. The silly SOB's are paying way to much. Grrrrrrr.....
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When its all said and done just remember::: THE DAMN THING AINT STORE BOUGHT AND I DID IT MY WAY!!!!!!!!  keep up the good work....
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Originally posted by Bob C IL Bob C IL wrote:



When its all said and done just remember::: THE DAMN THING AINT STORE BOUGHT AND I DID IT MY WAY!!!!!!!!  keep up the good work....


Thanks Bob!!!

I finally got a grill and some torque tube side sheilds. Had to mod the panels to make them fit the 180 tube. They are not the greatest but for 20 bucks for both i couldnt go wrong.
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looks like the 426 is about 2 inches longer than a 301 i had to cut the radiator shell to fit my 301 but about 2 inches back. i used stock d17 frame rails looks like u could prob use them with the 426.
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whats the difference in ratio between high and low from a d17 to a 180 or 200 i thought ab using the power director gears from a newer tractor in mine so there wasnt such a drastic drop in speed when u drop it in low. our 200 seems like it dont drop as much speed.
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180-185-190XT-200 is direct drive in high side and 20% slower in low side......for example 15.5 MPH in 8th and 12.5 MPH in 7th......A D17 is 15 MPH in 8th and 10.5 MPH in 7th...quite a bit slower ratio.
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I just bought a "core" turbo from the same place i got the other hx52 from on ebay. I got it for 180 bucks shipped. Got it today and this "core" its like brand new. Must have been put on new and then the truck parted out. The compressor wheel doesnt even look dirty. lol

here's a pic
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Is that an HX 35 or a 40? It should say on the tag on the compressor cover. Does it have a gated turbine housing?  Looks to be in nice shape.
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Its a hx52 off a d12 Volvo. It measures about 67/70 with a 16cm exhaust housing. It also has the billet compressor wheel.
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