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    Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 8:21pm
So I finally got the HD5 picked up. Found the starter button was junk. I managed to get it started and running fairly good and even leveled a little patch for a friend. I am supper excited to have this old machine and see it back in action again. I have a small video but the quality isnt very good and I haven't had any luck with loading photos on here for some reason. But once I get it figure out I'll get them loaded.
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The tractor looks good. These old machines just keep going. Enjoy it and congratulations on saving another one.

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So some of the things I have found on the dozer that need repaired are both hydraulic rams need rebuilt or replaced, and it needs head gaskets new fuel lines and remove the hack job shade cover post. Id also like to wire the battery in correctly too. 
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Nice tractor. congratulations!
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To put videos up on here, I believe you have to use a host server... like youtube or some other.
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So if you have a starter button it means someone put a M42 starter onto the 2-71 - seems that is the best conversion and thenthe next is to replace the generator with a alternator - 
 next is using a single 12 v battery to simplify things - also getting the filters changed and in some cases updating the filters to spin on type to be easier to find . 
 Keeping things lubed - including the sleeve inside the clutch housing - and remembering not to leave machine idle with the transmission in gear as the wear on that sleeve to the input shaft is a wear point - (idle only with clutch engaged) for any length of time 
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Nice looking little dozer.  Nice save!
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All right folks. Here is a bit of an update. The dozer already has an alternator on it but not hooked up. I have been using a group 31 batter to power it. Not sure if it's a different starter or not. I know you have a push rod to start it and it pushed the starter armature out and then goes to what I call a "button" that simply makes a power connection to the starter itself. Yesterday I was running it around and the cobbled cooling system in it came apart. So currently I need a radiator (preferably for this machine) all the short metal. Previous owner got a little creative with the cutting torch to fit what ever radiator in it he could find. A new fan and hoses. Oh and I need to fix the battery boxes (lids) new seat, all new fuel lines and head gasket. And finally I need to rebuild both rams one may need replaced as the head piece is broke and cobbled up. But currently the cooling system parts are my main concern.
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Oh boy that’s a lot of work. Good luck.
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Yeah that's not bad. I run a mobile diesel repair business. The hardest part is finding the parts.
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Originally posted by Dharless Dharless wrote:

All right folks. Here is a bit of an update. The dozer already has an alternator on it but not hooked up. I have been using a group 31 batter to power it. Not sure if it's a different starter or not. I know you have a push rod to start it and it pushed the starter armature out and then goes to what I call a "button" that simply makes a power connection to the starter itself. Yesterday I was running it around and the cobbled cooling system in it came apart. So currently I need a radiator (preferably for this machine) all the short metal. Previous owner got a little creative with the cutting torch to fit what ever radiator in it he could find. A new fan and hoses. Oh and I need to fix the battery boxes (lids) new seat, all new fuel lines and head gasket. And finally I need to rebuild both rams one may need replaced as the head piece is broke and cobbled up. But currently the cooling system parts are my main concern.

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So I got a quote to completely build a ne radiator today and a quote for a used radiator. 1200 to build a new one. $800 for a used one with no guarantee it's even good. This seams a little high to me. What do you all think?
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High for the used one in comparison


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High for a used one w/no grantee, but knowing what my son just paid for a rad for his Peterbuilt, and that was a stock item, not a special order like the your would be, I'd say you are in the ballpark. You might find it a little cheaper else ware, but it will never be cheap for a new one
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I found one from a parts dealer ( THILL TRACK & TRACTOR ) for the full hard noze and radiator for under $200 - now that was a few years back . 
 Rebuilding on ? I used a radiator from a 47 Chev car for a bit on my HD5B but it tended to overheat when pushed hard . 
 There are parts out there it's just finding them .Head gasket I got from a Detroit Diesel supplier - cheaper than a parts house - same as rebuilt HV7 injectors . 
 Battery box covers I just had some plate steel cut to size and ran in a breal to make the 2 90 deg bends - then welded a tab on to idex into the bolt in front of case 
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Originally posted by Coke-in-MN Coke-in-MN wrote:

I found one from a parts dealer ( THILL TRACK & TRACTOR ) for the full hard noze and radiator for under $200 - now that was a few years back . 
 Rebuilding on ? I used a radiator from a 47 Chev car for a bit on my HD5B but it tended to overheat when pushed hard . 
 There are parts out there it's just finding them .Head gasket I got from a Detroit Diesel supplier - cheaper than a parts house - same as rebuilt HV7 injectors . 
 Battery box covers I just had some plate steel cut to size and ran in a breal to make the 2 90 deg bends - then welded a tab on to idex into the bolt in front of case 


For my battery boxes, I used treated 1/2” plywood cut to fit tops. Added a piece of angle stock to lock it down. Put thick foam on it and covered with black vinyl. Arm rests!
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I think for the arm rest/battery box lids I will use a sheet steel lid then use a marine grade plywood as a base for the cushion and then a black vinyl. I will probably do the seat the same way. And may add some orange vinyl for trim. Give it a little dress up.
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Originally posted by Dharless Dharless wrote:

I think for the arm rest/battery box lids I will use a sheet steel lid then use a marine grade plywood as a base for the cushion and then a black vinyl. I will probably do the seat the same way. And may add some orange vinyl for trim. Give it a little dress up.


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I ended up the first time doing about a 3" rise on the battery box covers and the seat , then later just updated the seat with a bucket seat from a Chev suburban I scrapped . but raised it up about 4" higher than stock seat . 
 Now have a seat with floating hardware so cushion ride with shock and float suspension .
Way back it seems operators were smaller and not 6' or so tall - setting higher made it easier to run everything . Then on a 5G your arms are busy and seldom on the rests .  
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I remember a many time getting on the hd6 or the 6g in the middle of a summer day in a dirt pit starting the machine and that hot black vinyl feeling like a flame thrower to your skin. I do remember the 955 and old d6 had the nice wide seats that the girlfriend could sit net to ya.
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the HD5 G with 2nd bucket seat 
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I bought a IH T340 with a blue/grey minivan seat on it.
I got rid of both.

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Honestly if I dont find a radiator theres really no point to fix anything else. I can have on made but I need one to get the sizes off of. I have no idea what the on that's in there is out of. I have part numbers. Does anyone have a way to cross reference them? I can grab them in the morning.
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that chev car radiator I used fit into the width or brackets and for length was right also - just the number of cores were not enough . 
 Stock HD5 radiator is not a pressure unit - just open overflow from tank - 
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Well it looks like I will be taking a trip to Missouri soon. I found all the parts I need to get my dozer back up and running.
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individual or salvage dealer?

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Good luck.

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Salvage yard has them.
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Not mine but just down the road....
just some eye candy


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