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Hunt4Allis 
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 5:13am |
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What's the best way to get rid of groundhogs under a concrete slab of a building? Been dealing with these for the last couple years and need a solution...
Thanks Matt
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 5:43am |
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A hungry dog?
Snakes?
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:18am |
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A fiend that had one under his building used human waste , later on his neighbor ask what ever happen to ground hog u had under your building ,I have one now n want to get rid of him.
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WF owner
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:25am |
I have a metal storage building, with a paved floor, where I keep my tractors. Groundhogs are constantly digging under the walls for access inside the building.
Have you tried live traps? I have a live trap with a bullet hole through it, but that's a different smelly story.
Edited by WF owner - 23 Jun 2021 at 6:25am
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PaulB
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:41am |
Set up a catch barrel for rain from the roof and every time is fills up siphon the barrel into the groundhog hole. Be ready as the rodent will come flying out soaked with a WTF look on his face  Used cat litter down the hole will run them off as well  |
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:44am |
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A lot of patience and a well placed .22lr does a good job. Make sure the gun is loaded though. Pawpaw had one in his garden one year. He sat out behind the LP tank for SEVERAL hours waiting on it to show. It finally did and he got a bead on it, pulled the trigger, and "click".... No bullet. A single shot rifle with no bullets is pretty useless at a distance farther than arms length.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 8:27am |
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Leg hold traps work well then the .22
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 8:51am |
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Apple slice soaked in antifreeze dumped into the hole??
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Red Bank
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 9:15am |
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Hose hooked to exhaust on a lawn mower and pour a little transmission fluid in gas tank
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 11:09am |
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Get gopher grenades from the hardware store. Just lite toss down hole and cover it up cardboard or plywood works great you want the gas to stay in the holeto
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 12:51pm |
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I got 2 yesterday with my 22. The scope is still dead on. I got 2 more to deal with, maybe today!
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Hunt4Allis
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 1:09pm |
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I shoot plenty out away from building but as soon as these hear me coming there under the slab before I can get a shot( can't really shoot anyways, why I asked for maybe some ideas)
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:18pm |
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Put bubble gum down the hole,3or4.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:40pm |
 Hunt4Allis wrote:
I shoot plenty out away from building but as soon as these hear me coming there under the slab before I can get a shot( can't really shoot anyways, why I asked for maybe some ideas) |
Well. . . .
Be veeewwwwy veewwwwwy quiet! Hehehehehehee
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:45pm |
22 is permanent... around here they EAT the bubble gum, DRINK the antifreeze, then SNIFF the oily tractor fumes to get high !!! ...dont seem to work ! 
never tried cat chit.... have to give that a try. 
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:59pm |
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Put a hose on the exhaust of a vehicle and leave it run, stick it way down the hole
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 4:06pm |
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Anhydrous Ammonia down the hole.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 4:22pm |
Live trap set up obstacles so they have to go in such as a sheet of plywood or tires or something and put some bait in the trap. Learn to find their regular paths. I have even set a live trap in a path in tall grass. One thing no one gets out alive
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 5:32pm |
If you don't wanna shoot up your live traps, just drop trap, with critter inside, in a barrel fulla water. Or try these...
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Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 9:34pm |
Conibear traps! The only problem with them is animals you want to keep alive as the trap is non selective. https://youtu.be/G1USVaR3APo
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Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 8:58am |
I'm thinking 25/06! Or maybe .243, or .220 Swift, or .222 Magnum, (I do have one). Would probably just use the .22 because of easy access.
Have caught a couple in the live trap, apples make good bait. Also got one in a connibear. Apparently coons don't like holes in the ground as that groundhog and some opossums is all I've caught there.
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Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 9:21am |
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Conibear traps here,(BIG model), no other animals to worry about and they do work great!
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Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 6:02pm |
Dusty MI wrote:
Leg hold traps work well then the .22 |
WTH ?? Even "I" have a sense of humane treatment of animals, a Coni Bear trap is MUCH more humane IMO, and the OP should have been on the "look-out" 2 years ago  .
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Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 6:05pm |
Billoh wrote:
Put bubble gum down the hole,3or4. |
I'm pretty sure that this only works for "moles"
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Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 6:08pm |
Clay wrote:
Anhydrous Ammonia down the hole. |
How much $$ will THIS cost ?? 
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Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 7:20pm |
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Depends on Operator applying the Anhydrous!
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Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 7:56am |
At current price per ton at $695, estimate about 50 lbs of nh3, less than $20.
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Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 9:29am |
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Anything from the .22 to the .450 if I can get a shot at them. Double spring conibear when I'm not able to sit there. Anybody have suggestions for how to refill the dirt--get support back under the slab? I've had some luck with limestone on top of old chicken wire to keep them from redigging the entrance but never figured out how to get more than a couple feet backfilled.
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Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 10:14am |
DYN O MITE! however, like most of the other suggestions, there are some down side effects......but it is guaranteed to get the job done! Like they say in the local gambling establishments, or, rather in their advertisements, go big or go home......I'm not even sure what that means, I think, throw all your money away at once, rather than a little bit at a time. That way they can get get more people in to fleece. But now I am way, way off track! OK, pesky varmint..............
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Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 11:52am |
Steve A wrote:
Anybody have suggestions for how to refill the dirt--get support back under the slab? I've had some luck with limestone on top of old chicken wire to keep them from redigging the entrance but never figured out how to get more than a couple feet backfilled. |
When I was working, we use a product called "flowable fill". We used it mostly when "slip-lining" culverts (sliding a slightly smaller culvert inside a damaged slightly larger culvert). We used it to take up the space between the two culverts.
Flowable fill is, basically, a very wet slump concrete (almost liquid) without aggregate (I believe sand, portland cement and water) in it. (Google flowable fill) It has little strength, and is designed to be able to be pumped. We bought ours as "ready mix", but there is no reason you couldn't mix small quantities yourself. It does harden enough that an animal couldn't burrow through it.
I'm sure you could either rent a small concrete pump (maybe even a "mud sucker" pump, but you would have to really clean it well after) or fashion some sort of pump to pump it your self. (I'm thinking of some kind of container that you could pick up with a loader and let gravity do the pumping.)
Edited by WF owner - 25 Jun 2021 at 11:55am
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