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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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I'm almost positive Massey had nothing to do with the C62 other than it was sold in red. It's all Gleaner. Even where the cylinder is located is like the natural flow rotor location. I don't see a thing about it that looks like it came from a Massey.
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tbran ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3521 |
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1. it was Gleaner - used the threshing grate /accel rolls etc.
2. After talking to a few old hands I remember the demise of the L4 - seems they didn't pay for the parts.... and Deutz Allis didn't have security filing on the the units produced. Thus credit was the demise... remember it was the '80's... Also the C62 was sold mainly in Canada - had a friend who was a dealer - really pitched a fit when they were discontinued. They had some initial belt seal issues but searching the service bulletins finds they were pretty update , trouble free.
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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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My sales brochure for the L4 is dated either 1990 or 1991 so they must have made them at least that long. Found a sales brochure on line just now that is dated 1991. Edited by Lonn - 11 Aug 2020 at 1:49pm |
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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Thanks for that reply farmboy
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Very interesting! My 1991 brochure (Probably the same as Lonn's) calls the company "The L4 Corporation". It says the factory in Mexico was a former joint venture partner with A-C, but at the time of the L4 was totally Mexican owned, and they had 10 years experience in manufacturing L3 combines (but 1991-1983 = 8 ?) Anyway, it says they had the tooling and license rights for the L series combine. Having license rights would legally allow them to manufacture the L-series combine, right? So if I correctly interpreted what Tim said, this "L4 Corporation" was buying parts to build the machines from Duetz, but didn't pay for them, they lost their credit, and went under? Also...what is a security filing? |
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tbran ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3521 |
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AC -Deutz Allis or Agco - timeline overlaps - had no way to control or obtain a security interest in a product that bore a name owned by them. There were several forces at work. The company from AC to DA to the formation of AGCO had a export sales force that may have had something to do with the allowing of the L4 to be - but that cannot be substantiated by anyone I could find - just rumors. The poor credit came from a reliable source. As long as the machines were in Mexico there was nothing Agco could do - but when they crossed over into the US violation of trademarks and patents came into play but the young Agco had not an abundance of cash for legal battles..
The best I can remember one of the Agco execs was adamantly opposed to , as stated, the L4 Corp. Took some time for him to win.
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gleaner1 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Dec 2009 Points: 225 |
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The plant is still in business although a slight name change.
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ALLIS CHALMERS "The color is orange"
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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That is neat to know, Tim. Your stories and wealth of knowledge never disappoint!
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GM Guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Location: NW KS / S.C. ID Points: 1985 |
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We have a Mexican L2, Air conditioning and hydro, its a corn/soybean special and doesnt have a heater, imagine that. :) 301 engine. Tan interior,but a different foam/vinyl, and the seat is the same a L.
Much better rear deck, heavier and has a little added support. fit and finish is relatively poor, mixture of rivets, Dad got to speak with the original owner, who bought it from Schmidt and sons in KS, IIRC save 20 grand over a US model. major hyd. problems, assumed tank wasnt cleaned after drilling and welding fittings. Schmidt stepped up and tore everything down and cleaned it up, put it back together, no issues after that. He traded it for a US model a few years later. Its SN 008. Ill try to add pics when I get time. |
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Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.
If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
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nick121 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
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I would say corn it's running out of cleaning capacity is an issue same as wheat. Beans it's hp shortage grinding through tough stems.
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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