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Getting the All Crops ready for wheat
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    Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 9:38pm

The combines are outside. Tomorrow I'll hook up the 72 and bring it into the shop and see what it will take to replace the concave bottom with the patch sheet I got from Yaz All Crop. I'll see if I can get the bad tire on the 90 replaced, then Sunday I'll hook up the 90 and see if everything turns and try running it with the tractor if it does.

I don't think I'm going to get a wheat screen for the 90 before the wheat is ready so IF everything works on it we'll try it without one, otherwise we'll try it in soybeans this fall because we have a finish screen for those.
The 72 is serial # 949 (A Sharpee does a nice job of highlighting the numbers) I think it's a 1960.
The 90 is serial # 4756 I'm not sure what year it is. I'll post more pictures as I go.
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good Luck!
If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!
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   Your 90 is a 1959. Your correct on the 72 year.
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Well Saturday didn't work out quite the way it was planned so today we got the 72 in and started on it after lunch. Forgot my camera so the pictures are from the cell phone.
The combine got the honor of being the first project in the nearly complete new shop.
The concave floor is seriously rusted out, this replacement is from Tom Yaz.
I can't believe the duct tape didn't hold. LOL! 
 
So we sarted by trying to loosen the drive belt but the ratchet belt tightener was frozen solid, so we took it off. That was quite a job for a couple fat guys under the combine.
Can anyone tell me, does the drive shieve have to come off the cylinder? It looks like it might all slide out in one piece but that seems like it would be too easy.
It looks like this will have to come off to get to the concave after the cylinder is off.
It was pretty hot today so by 5:00 we called quits.
 
We went out and looked over the 90, it looks to be in pretty good shape. The plan is to replace the bad tire, hook it up to a tractor, grease the 100 or so zerks, lube the chains and and try turning it by hand. Thats what we did with the 72. If everything works by hand the next step is to put the pto in gear and see how it runs at idle.
 
We let the 72 run at idle for about a  1/2 hour so the belts warmed up and and got flexible again after setting for many years, we also reoiled the chains as it was running. Then we slowly increased the throttle. Hopefully the same thing will work as well with the 90.
 
Anybody who's changed cylinder bars on an All Crop chime in with suggestions please.
 
I'll keep you posted.


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Originally posted by Rfdeere Rfdeere wrote:

   Your 90 is a 1959. Your correct on the 72 year.
 
What reference source do you have?
 
Thanks,
 
Dave
 
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Originally posted by Dave in il Dave in il wrote:

Originally posted by Rfdeere Rfdeere wrote:

   Your 90 is a 1959. Your correct on the 72 year.
 
What reference source do you have?
 
Thanks,
 
Dave
 
 
   Norm Swinford's Farm Equipment book.
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We  got inside  to change bars  .Put something to lay on  straw rack . WE just had open end wrenches back then ,with power tools it would be a lot easier.  Take one off and put one back ,one at a time . PS I have put on a few pounds since i have been in one !
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We did five 72 rebuilds in our shop this winter. You will have to pull the cyl out the end where you show the picture of the end cover. take off the top shield you show in the next pic. We always pull the head off and the beater out of way so we can work. Rebuild everything as you can get to everything. We make our own concaves and many of the parts that we use. If you want you can PM me and i will give you my number and you can call me. I would be glad to answer any questions.
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Dave,
I may get drafted to use my WD-45 to pull an All-Crop in a few weeks.  For raising and lowering the header, how do you have your hydraulic pump set on the tractor?  For the "Hold" position?  Or, does it even matter?
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Hold position Brian because you are carrying head with cylinder.Dad used to turn the screw in some on the front side to slow down lift. Maybe that was more important cutting beans. Too long ago.
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Curt, thanks you might be getting a call. So if we take the shieve adjusting arm off will the cylider come out with the shieve on the shaft? It will probably be the weekend before we get back to it.
 
Brian, I used the D17 to run the combine, the WD was just handy to bring it in the shop.
 
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