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allischalmerguy 
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Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 9:15pm |
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Hi AC folks,
I am trying to take the rear wheel of my WD because I think it has a bad bearing or something. I jacked it up, and took the bolts off. But the wheel is stuck on. Do you just put the lug nuts on a wee bit loose and then drive the tractor putting on the brake to break the wheel loose? I don't want to break anything!
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Ted in NE-OH
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Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 9:21pm |
Jack up the tractor loosen the lug nuts and hit the inside of the rim with a big sledge hammer. 
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Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 9:29pm |
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While you have it jacked up, try to move the wheel back and forth. Movement of the wheel could indicate a bad bearing in the final drive. With the wheel bolts out, spray some penetrating oil where the wheel fits around the hub. (If you haven't tried Kroil yet, get some) The sledge hammer will probably work, but put a block of wood between the hammer and the rim, rather than risk damaging the rim. Good luck
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Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 11:33pm |
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I just jack it up, leave two lug bolts in (about 1/2" loose) and hit the TIRE with the sledge hammer, rotate 90 degrees hit again, repeat as necessary....it will eventually let loose.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 6:44am |
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Use a long bar/pipe or shaft (5 ft long or longer) and pry the wheel off by reaching in behind the wheel/rim and final drive and force it off.....you may even have to use a torch to heat the wheel center where it is rusted to the axle.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 6:49am |
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Yes they can be tight -- I have used both the bar and the big sledge method and yes it will come off, your heart rate will be up and you will be sweating!!
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 7:24am |
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Either Ted's or Eldon's method is the one we use. It just depends on which one we can get to easiest whether we hit the rim or the tire.
Edited by JarrodACFan - 12 Jun 2012 at 7:25am
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allischalmerguy
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 8:08am |
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Thanks Guys.! I will hopefully get it off today. I can grab the wheel and it does have just a wee bit of play back and forth. I jacked up the other side to ck the play in it..and it did not have any.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions.
Pastor Mike
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GregLawlerMinn
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 8:47am |
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I now drive them around with the nuts held on finger tight. Getting too old for the BFH method, and driving is more safer for me
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 9:10am |
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i tried penetrating oil and BFH.. wouldn't budge.. wound up putting a porta-power between the rims and pressing a little.. then turned the wheel.. pressed a little more, etc.. until it finally let go..
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 5:09pm |
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I've seen them where they were so tight all that got accomplished with the sledge hammer was beating up a perfectly good rim. Easiest way is to drive it with loose bolts. That way nobody gets hurt. hehehhe
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 10:02pm |
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I'm with WK, loosen the bolts and drive in circles. Don't beat up your wheel.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 10:17pm |
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WK is correct.
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allischalmerguy
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 11:14pm |
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I ended up driving it with the lug bolts loosed a bit...and it was really easy it took about 30 seconds of driving, braking hard and turning...I didn't beat on the tire or rim cause of how I had the tractor blocked up..It all came apart. Now I am dealing with getting the outer bearing snap ring out...it looks to be a duesy...the inner snap ring as hard too! Is there a special tool to do this with? The outer snap ring is buried in a groove and it is in a hard place to get out! Tips are appreciated!
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 7:29am |
Not sure how yours are but sometimes a couple of pole barn nails sharpened to sharped points make nice picks. I use them for scribes when doing lay out on sheet metal.
They are harder steel than regular nails.
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Edited by Dusty MI - 13 Jun 2012 at 7:30am
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 7:53am |
Not sure of your tolerances(wear) on those snap ring configurations. For inner snap rings I found nailsets work good to start the snap rings and spin them out.
For the outer snap ring I just did the WC transmission snap ring for the clutch shaft. also seated. There was enough tolerance to use the snap ring pliers to spread the snap ring and slide a flat screwdriver between it and the slot. Then I hammered a flat screwdriver(the small ones for glasses) under the snap ring. It took two of these to work the end of the snap ring out of the seated position. then I used a large screwdriver to spin out the snap ring.
I'd say it worked great but it did take almost an hour and an extra pair of hands. Can't count how many times I "almost had it". I got it once and didn't notice it working back into the groove and had to start over. in the end I had just enough room to get it out.
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 7:58am |
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A couple of good screwdrivers work OK to remove one too. Pick it up a bit then get behind it. Keep doing that until out.
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 8:39am |
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys...you are GREAT Help.
Pastor Mike
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