I600 basic questions

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   Considering an I600 for acreage tasks: loader stuff, blade the driveway, firewood stuff, and especially to push a snowblower when it drifts to become a hassle with my truck. TractorData site is woefully slim for this tractor, which I understand is a modification of the D15. My questions are mostly pertinent to the snowblower issue:
1) TractorData shows D15 (both series) at around 40 HP, but I60 and I600 at around 58 HP. I've seen a number of mentions saying they have the same engine, either diesel or gas.  What's with the listed difference? 18 HP can make quite a difference when choosing a blower.
2) Shuttle shift on the I600 is essentially the Power Director but with forward/reverse instead of hi/low? So what are the ratios or speeds of the four gears with the shuttle? I'm looking at shuttle tractors in hopes of finding slower reverse speeds for the blower.
3) TractorData site says that the D15 Industrial (so does that mean the I600?) had a PTO speed of 875 rpm. Verification, anyone? So what are the splines on that shaft?

Thanks in advance to answers for these or any other snowblower/loader tractor suggestions.

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Skeezix Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skeezix Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: I600 basic questions Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 7:21am
	Considering an I600 for acreage tasks: loader stuff, blade the driveway, firewood stuff, and especially to push a snowblower when it drifts to become a hassle with my truck. TractorData site is woefully slim for this tractor, which I understand is a modification of the D15. My questions are mostly pertinent to the snowblower issue: 1) TractorData shows D15 (both series) at around 40 HP, but I60 and I600 at around 58 HP. I've seen a number of mentions saying they have the same engine, either diesel or gas. What's with the listed difference? 18 HP can make quite a difference when choosing a blower. 2) Shuttle shift on the I600 is essentially the Power Director but with forward/reverse instead of hi/low? So what are the ratios or speeds of the four gears with the shuttle? I'm looking at shuttle tractors in hopes of finding slower reverse speeds for the blower. 3) TractorData site says that the D15 Industrial (so does that mean the I600?) had a PTO speed of 875 rpm. Verification, anyone? So what are the splines on that shaft? Thanks in advance to answers for these or any other snowblower/loader tractor suggestions.

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orangeman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1681	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangeman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 7:39am
	Excellent tractor for acreage and driveway snow clean-up. I have the 615 Industrial which is the follow up to the I-600. Check the transmission thoroughly under load. Should have a good sharp "snap" when you engage the shuttle clutch. If it is a loader tractor - make sure you find weight for the rear tires. Recommend if you use the loader you find 11L X 16 rims and tires for the front to allow the load to be spread. Good Luck....Orangeman

Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4515	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 8:31am
	The D-15 is a farm tractor so the the HP is rated at the PTO. Industrial tractors are rated at engine flywheel HP. the cluch packs in the shuttle and the power director are the same. Shuttle is created by an idler gear changing the rotation of one clutch pack. Since the PTO drive comes from this gear set, the shuttle changes the PTO speed. It's not 540 or 1000 but something between. There were D-15 Industrial tractors before the I-60 which came before the I-600. I60 and I600 tactors are the same with the differences being in the backhoe.
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nickia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: alden iowa Points: 753	Post Options Post Reply Quote nickia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 9:16am
	i have a 615 loader back hoe love it can push snow all day long and excellent on fuel

Eldon (WA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eldon (WA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 12:06pm
	Not all will have 3pt and pto. The gearing should be the same as the "high" side of a power director D15 tractor....so you will not gain a slower reverse.
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allisguy.11 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Perry, Ny Points: 575	Post Options Post Reply Quote allisguy.11 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 2:55pm
	its a great loader tractor. awesome for picking up bales, for firewood etc….. but i don't think it would go all that well with a blower. I think the reverse gear is too fast. With tire chains, it'll go through anything.

Eric B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Location: British Columbi Points: 888	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eric B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 12:38am
	Don't hang too much hope on the 58 HP rating, I've had a I600 and while the machine has many good points the 4 cyl. diesel does not have the power you could wish for while doing loader work especially.
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DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50529	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 5:27am
	More like 40 HP gas, 36-7 diesel horsepower.