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DMiller 
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 Posted: 07 May 2024 at 11:54am |
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Hot Shot trucking, had its day in midwest and west, rules broken, fines levied, equipment towed or impounded. All as failed to DOT license, gain correct permits and registrations, attain commercial insurance for commercial use. Sad but the mess these types made over last few years is clearing many off the roadways.
Mo DOT Inspectors are bo longer turning a blind eye, same in CO, WY, NM, AZ, OK and AR. Heard IA is breaking nee revenues against these people as is IL.
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 07 May 2024 at 8:09pm |
 BuckSkin wrote:
truckerfarmer wrote:
Lars(wi) wrote:
jaybmiller wrote:
It's illegal for non-commercial drivers to tow more than one trailer here in Ontario.
That 'rig' would count as THREE trailers if the 5th wheel dolly is a 'trailer'...
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I don’t believe here in the states, that 5th wheel dolly is considered a separate trailer. If it was than many freight companies that ‘pulled doubles’ would have necessitated their drivers to have ‘triples’ endorsement on CDL’s. |
Not sure about other states, but here my endorsement says doubles/triples. |
Likewise with my Class A; there is no differentiation between doubles and triples; if you qualify for one, you qualify for both; I believe the endorsement is either "N" or "T" ; I have both N and T; I think the "N" is "Numerous" meaning doubles/triples and the "T" means Tanker. |
Mine are TX. I have everything but schoolbus.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 08 May 2024 at 12:55pm |
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The tow dolly would be licensed to weight it carries of camper .
The truck is not a RV but tow vehicle so depending on load scaled by truck and load may require a Annual DOT inspection sticker as over 10,001 weight .
To make a legal RV I have seen motor homes pulling doubles , car hauling trailer loaded with vehicle and a boat on trailer attached to that trailer .
Depending on hitch type a 10% load transfer is possible with bumper type hitch ball but with fifth wheels or pentle hook device up to 20% load can be carried .
Like any DOT inspection each unit would require it's own type of inspection , and the weak point might be the tow dolly weight limit .
By using a RV as power source it changes the legality of full unit and if any special drivers license is needed beyond a Class D passenger vehicle license .
The trailer of any combination even under 24 or 26,000 in which the trailer is over 10,001 requires the tow vehicle and the trailer to be DOT inspected
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DMiller
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Posted: 08 May 2024 at 1:16pm |
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Still have my Class A, dropped HAZMAT and Bus, but kept Multiple Trailer on it. IF no brakes on Dolly it would be Illegal for Use as Every Axle on the Ground in certain considerations MUST be Brake Equipped on GVW Ratings. If Home Made as I have not seen a Corporate Build Fifth Wheel Towing Dolly, it will require Legal Aspect assurances beyond a Insurance Policy. Went thru that with a Home Made Dropneck Lowboy we built in the 1980s.
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DMiller
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Posted: 08 May 2024 at 1:24pm |
So I researched and Yes there are Legal Tow Dollies, HOWEVER, Read the informations page, waffling to a point of Conjecture as to Vehicle Legal length presentation, Requirement to License NA and other subject to States Interpretations is pretty far out there.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 09 May 2024 at 8:16am |
DaveKamp wrote:
Tbone95 wrote:
I just wanna know how high the bow of the boat is. |
That's a valid concern- based on the angles of those two photos, it looks to be mebbie a couple inches higher than the top of the RV. If there's an AC unit, open vent, or TV antenna atop the RV, then they're about the same height.
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Looks like more than a couple inches to me, but obviously we can’t say for sure.
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