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john2189 
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 12:01am |
hi
where is the proper locations for the choke and starter rods for my 42 and 5 B ?
one is missing both and the other is cut,bent and welded on. it is mounted on the battery box with an angle iron drilled.
Does anyone have pics of the way they should be ?
John
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Charlie175
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 8:31am |
which way is your starter turned? Wire connection on top or bottom?
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Dick L
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 8:43am |
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(Proper) Location or the Location from the factory.
The starter pigtail rod is is mounted under the battery box thru an angle bracket mounted under one of the battery box bolts.
The choke rod was mounted thru a hole in the pin that goes go thru the top of the post and brackets that hold the steering tube to the post.
There should be pictures in my fotki site somewhere.
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 9:06am |
Here be a couple pix of the starter rod.  
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 9:26am |
Here is the choke rod upper location. 
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 3:28pm |
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OK I have the rod for the starter but my throttle shaft isnt as long as Dickl's and there is no hole there for the choke rod
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 5:55pm |
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Dick's picture appears to show the choke through a clevis pin that holds the steering tube to the support post. If yours isn't long enough, take it out and replace it with a longer one. I wonder if your tractors came with a starter delete plate originally. Lots of War tractors didn't have a starter but may have had the torque tube for one. If they didn't have a starter to begin with, they wouldn't need a choke control at the operators station, only at the carb.
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 8:34pm |
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Above the toolbox door on my CA there is a additional flat metal clip under a upper tool box machine screw . The choke rod goes thru this clip. Not sure if the clip is used on Bs.
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Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 8:35pm |
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Yes Ken, I have that clip on my 1950 B, which is my only electric start B (that is in this state....)
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Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 7:57am |
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I think all had that clip or guide bracket that came from the factory with a choke rod.
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Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 8:26am |
Parts books show the Choke Rod Clip Part # 210919 with the #900561 Screw,# 904205 Lockwasher and #900366 Nut on B/IB and C after B-55300
There is also supposed to be a Choke rod return spring #211320 on the carb end of the rod. None of my rods have this spring. It hooks to the Carb Choke Lever. Can't see from the diagram where the stationary end of the spring hooks on past the carb.
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Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 9:16am |
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The spring makes sense since so many other makes of carburetors have the choke return spring. On most the spring is part of the carburetor and not an added spring. The spring works real well on my Farmall C but you still have to push the choke back in on my Olivers that have the return spring.
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Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 10:11am |
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Charlie
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Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 9:34pm |
Thanks for the pics
My Bs do not have that straqp on the back of the gas tank either as shown in Charlies pics, they have two lugs that bolts to the toolbox
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Charlie175
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Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 6:11am |
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Interesting, I'd like to see a picture of the tank.
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Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 8:59am |
In what year did the B change to the pull starter rod located up on the steering column?
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Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 10:13am |
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They changed it to the pull rod in 1951 when they started making the CA, the gas tank, hood, starter,and all that stuff back there was standardized then.
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