This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


4W-305 Question

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Dale View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario
Points: 372
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 4W-305 Question
    Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 8:13pm
My 4W-305 is a hard shifter-maybe 60% of the time.The other 40% works like it should. Tried different shifting patterns to see if there's a solution or if I can identify when it gets difficult. Tried different clutching. Full to the floor (into the transmission brake zone) and then clutching outside the zone. Nothing pops up as the problem or the solution. I'm stumped. If it's the clutch I haven't even checked if replacements are available. Rather it not be a worn clutch problem -LoL

What could the possible causes be?
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
tbran View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Paris Tn
Points: 3241
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tbran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 8:43pm
define 'hard shifter'  grinding ? gear on gear and not slipping in ? can't move the shifter ?  will not all the way in gear ?  
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
Back to Top
Dale View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario
Points: 372
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2024 at 6:01am
tbran,

All of the above but at different times. Turn the machine off and it goes into the gears and range quite nicely. Often it's the best way to get it going:-turn it off, put it in gear, start it and go. The one variable that seems to "sometimes" make a difference is when the tractor is in use and well warmed up. But can't say this is anywhere close to all the time.
Back to Top
SteveM C/IL View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Shelbyville IL
Points: 7999
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveM C/IL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2024 at 8:47am
I say it's adjustment. Follow that procedure including the pressure gauge. You will never shift up without clashing while moving.
Back to Top
tbran View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Paris Tn
Points: 3241
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tbran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2024 at 11:46am
We usually find since there are no syncros in the tranny one pushes the pedal into the brake mode, then while holding shift lever in the gear one wants wants, let out on the clutch and as the shaft moves it can best be put in gear then. 
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
Back to Top
Dale View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario
Points: 372
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2024 at 5:15pm
Thanks Steve and tbran

Going to try both of your suggestions. I'm assuming the adjustment procedure can be found in the Service manual?
Back to Top
Amos View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario
Points: 1301
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Amos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2024 at 5:39pm
Dale, have not run into your issue with my 305, however, you describe my 7580 issues pretty much to a T, i replaced the clutch/power director cable, helped kind of.  But when i replaced the bushings and the worn shaft in the power director valve mechanism, oh boy!  I have new a tractor. works like it should and every time.  Might look and see if your 305 has worn out bushings in it 
Back to Top
bigal121892 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 05 Jan 2010
Location: Nebraska
Points: 741
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bigal121892 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2024 at 6:43pm
I would assume it has the bushings, but was unable to find them in a parts diagram. If there are bushings, replacing them will make it shift like a new tractor.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.064 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum