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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8580 |
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Posted: 01 Jul 2022 at 6:37pm |
Had my son take a video of me roto baling. Here is a link if you'd like to watch it.
Thanks! https://youtu.be/LGrqxfopFJg |
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dr p
Orange Level Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1011 |
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Nice job taking. That is the key!!!
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Sherman Farms
Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Centerburg, OH Points: 1591 |
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Looks good Darrel. Love the roto-balers, we been using them for 72 years straight years.
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B, C, RC, 3 wc,2 wd,3 wd45, d15, d17, d19, d21, 190, 440, 7040, 918 backhoe, 12 roto balers, 7 60 combines, 40, 66,2 72,90 super, sp100, Gleaner E, F3, 3 L2, R62, and much more
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8580 |
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Yeah, roto baling is my favorite farm related thing to do; bar none.
Job that I was working on there was ideal. Someone else cut the hay, Someone else picked up the bales; all I had to do was bale @ $1.50/ bale. Made around six hundred of them, and the guy is thinking about 300 more. Thanks for watching, guys! Darrel |
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MACK
Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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Take that top beater out so you can see when string wraps press roller. They don't do any thing but block view of press roller. MACK
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8580 |
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Thanks Mack. Dumb question for you. Supposin' I do see the twine wrapping around that roller, is there a way to restart the cycle and get twine on the bale without kicking the bale out?
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wjohn
Orange Level Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Location: KS Points: 1798 |
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That sounds like a pretty sweet deal. Looks good!
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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45
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ranger43
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Jun 2019 Location: Huntingburg Points: 147 |
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x2...and someone already wisely took off the side shields.
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Tom59
Bronze Level Joined: 27 Feb 2021 Location: Lebanon Tenness Points: 149 |
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Very nice done video, thanks for sharing. What size D series are using to pull the baler with ? I had a hard time making out the number, I figured it neither a D-15 or D-17 by the paint .
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8580 |
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It's a D17. My painter was slightly stubborn, and went ahead and painted it PO1, when it is supposed to be PO2, PO2 is what I told him that it was supposed to be
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Ky.Allis
Orange Level Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Points: 963 |
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I've been around AC all my life; but never a roto baler. Seems awfully slow going; but maybe not in their day. Didn't they revive production of them for a while maybe in the early 70's? If everything works good; how many bales can you make in an hour? Was there an advantage of them over square bales? Seems like I remember of some folks baling fall hay and leaving them in the field and letting livestock graze on them in winter months.
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ranger43
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Jun 2019 Location: Huntingburg Points: 147 |
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You can push it pretty good in good conditions. I grew up around them and the neighbors still have 5 of them. We have 1 old orange top at our place. When I was a boy, the neighbors put up 10,000 roto-bales of hay and another 2000 straw. We had a NH square baler and put up another 8000 squares. Needless to say I always had work !! We were both milking around 45 cows at that time. When help got hard to find and big round balers came around, the neighbors cut back to around 4-5000 little round bales and the rest was custom baled. They still milk around 35 cows and put up several thousand little rounds a year.
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dr p
Orange Level Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1011 |
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I still make a couple thousand every year to feed my milk cows. If everything is going smoothly, a hundred an hour is doable. First day out, I am lucky if I get twenty an hour. Takes a while for 60 year old linkage to limber up. My cows prefer them to square bales and I make some for the bigger dairies to feed "off"" cows. I know some guys leaving them in the field for cows to graze in the winter but the field losses are pretty high.
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MACK
Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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The only thing you can do is loose drive belt and turn twine tube back to start. Catch it quick enough, reverse bailer, but it may spit hay back out on head. MACK
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Ryan Renko
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edwardsville, I Points: 2313 |
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Very nice upclose video of the machine in action. So is the twine tied in any way or just wrapped around and then cut?? Ryan
Edited by Ryan Renko - 03 Jul 2022 at 7:30pm |
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MACK
Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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It just wrapped the bale with a few extra wraps on each end. MACK
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Pat the Plumber CIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4677 |
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My grandfather used to walk behind and tie the end of each bale . My father would tell him he was wasting his time . He was older and I think it was something he could do so he felt he was helping. We handled the bales with 2 hay hooks . Stacked them much like square bales . Tops would flatten as you walked on the bales . Dairy Cows we had preferred the round bales over squares. We had a neighbor that would rake up the grass in his pasture and my dad would bale the grass and leave the bales on the ground. That winter he would put the cattle in that pasture if we got any snow. They would un cover the bales and eat the grass.
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Dakota Dave
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3893 |
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I followed the baler when I was 12 and tied the end of the wrap of even bale and turned sideways. We used a bale loader it lifted them into the barge wagon. Got back to the farm and had an elevator that ran them up into the loft. The barn was built differant than most the cow heads were toward the center and the loft drop was in the middle. Feeding was easy drop the bales cut twin and kick the bales they'd unroll in front of the cows. We did 6000 hay and 1000 straw every year for the 45 milk cows. If you didn't tie the end wrap the twine came off and got wrapped up in the bale loader and the elevator. We never left in the field always picked up the same day we baled and stored inside. The cows really likes the hay and it wasn't scratchy like the squares we baled at home.
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Tom59
Bronze Level Joined: 27 Feb 2021 Location: Lebanon Tenness Points: 149 |
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[QUOTE=darrel in ND] It's a D17. My painter was slightly stubborn, and went ahead and painted it PO1, when it is supposed to be PO2, PO2 is what I told him that it was supposed to be
Darrel [/ Still a good looking tractor, I always like the looks of the D-17 tractors. I watch your video of again and I could see a lot of similarities between the AC roll baler and the big round baler. The concept is pretty the same, but I guess the first manufacturers of big round balers change things up enough to not infringe on patent designs. I wonder why Allis Chalmers did not persuade the large round baler development themselves since they had the small round baler. |
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7943 |
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Allis did persue the round baler- tested the Hawk round baler- it was a round baler that was tire/ ground driven - didnt work out too good
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Dennis J OPKs
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Overland Park, Points: 386 |
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My experience was similar to Dakota Dave. Both my Dad & his brothers had dairy operations and they had the roto baler. We never tied the ends but stacking those suckers required some skill to get the corners locked in. We would cut the bales in half with a hay knife and pull the twine at the same time when feeding them. Had an AC bale loader mounted on a WC. If we didn't get them in before a rain, then we'd roll them over and turn lengthwise for the loader. Otherwise, if we didn't turn them the loader worker pretty well loading them from a crosswise position-just required some pin-point driving. Also used 2 hay hooks, one in each hand and they weren't super heavy. Those were the days working in the heat, dust & no air conditioning, even in the house.
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