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Kansas99 
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 Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 6:30am |
Years back I kinda liked the Ford Rangers but the quality was so bad I bought a Mazda instead.  
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Tbone95
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Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 6:37am |
 Kansas99 wrote:
Years back I kinda liked the Ford Rangers but the quality was so bad I bought a Mazda instead.
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Guess who now is the "best" car company, according to CR I think it was...
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WF owner
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Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 7:04am |
Lars(wi) wrote:
We have two separate topics going here,
1. Who makes a better product
2. Which is a better run company
In my mind, if a company has to go begging to the govt hat in hand, crying the blues, they need help from the govt to survive, a pox on that company, and the govt for helping. Regardless of the quality of their product, if a company can’t stand alone and survive, I’ve got no time for them.
GM is dead to me. |
That is only part of the GM story.
Locally, GM abandoned a plant where they had dumped PCB's for years and paid only a small percentage of the cleanup costs, while the federal government picked up the tab for the remainder. Local GM employees were forced to retire, transfer or find other jobs.
Meanwhile GM reported substantial earnings in the following years, but had no obligation to repay the federal government for the cleanups.
I have already given plenty to GM through my taxes.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 7:20am |
Alan Mullaly came to Ford in the nick of time. He came on board in 2006, before the crap really started hitting the fan. The car companies used to count vehicles moved by dealer orders. Mullaly basically said, "That is stupid. A vehicle moves when it is sold to a customer." So studying all the inventory out there, he saw early on when sales were slowing way down, and slowed building (which takes investing cash) way down. GM dealers kept ordering cars so GM kept producing, then they had a huge glut, big money spent, very little coming in, where Ford was able to ride it out.
Simplification, and more to it than that, but that's an interesting piece of it to me.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 7:40am |
DiyDave wrote:
FREEDGUY wrote:
steve(ill) wrote:
FORD sell MILLINOS of trucks and FreeGas is worried about 2 clowns in a monkey suit that switch to rice burners ? They deserve it !! |
You sir are missing MY post ENTIRELY title="Wink" /> !! And these "CLOWNS" are the hardest working, White, NON -UNION people that I've been around in a LONG time !! Did I mention they "WERE" die hard Ford guys ???? |
Why would race have anything to do with car ownership?  title="Confused" /> |
Yes exactly ???
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Dorix
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Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 8:41pm |
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I think China is as big a threat to Ford and the others as their own bad management. I wonder how much of those contractors Fords were actually made here?
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 10 Jun 2021 at 8:52pm |
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AMEN JW, when a contractor shows up at my place in a $85K loaded King Ranch (that never get's worked and is just for show), pretty safe to say his quote will be the highest every time!
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 4:18pm |
And these "CLOWNS" are the hardest working, White, NON -UNION people that I've been around in a LONG time ...
So.... have you got something against "UNION" Mexican or IRISH CLOWNS ?? 
Edited by steve(ill) - 11 Jun 2021 at 4:21pm
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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1955CA
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Posted: 03 Jul 2021 at 9:58pm |
Nissan better??? Bahahaha. You couldn't keep rear ends in the original Titan's. Now they are rebranded Ram's.
Anyway, Ford is not perfect. Have had good and bad. Last 10 years been buying other brands because my Ford DEALER pee'd me off.
Now I'm back to Ford and swore to myself I'll never go back to the others.
Only other thing is now I have gone back to gasoline engines only. I am never dealing with emission diesels again now that I have retired from trucking. And that goes for ALL brands.
Like has been said.....there must be a reason Ford has been the best selling truck in North America for years and years and years.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 4:07am |
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i wouldn't buy a toyota or nissan cuz they sell their trucks to the taliban that kill our troops!
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DougG
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 9:00am |
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Sadly its a matter of time as Ford will be in a foreign companys control- if it isnt already
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