Just Thinkin'

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   Was looking at newer machines the last few weeks for a friend, he is looking between a used 455G Deere and a 931 Cat
so we have been admiring the crap out there for sale for a price$$.  He doesn't know heavy machinery at all but has farmed all his life and prefers to clear as he can where he can with his own machines so willing to use rentals so far and now wants his own.

ANYWAY, short story longer and more boring, I am admiring how fast all these machines decay away in 15, 20 even 25 years, a 943 Cat looked like it would rust away tomorrow with those new style rails that do not last and thought back to our old monsters, some 50 some 60 years young and managing as they can doing work these machines would never finish.

Just wondered why New Holland division that bought up the Fiat owned side of Allis Construction does not go ahead and manufacture HERE a machine that could revive the old name but under the new company.  Too much?
  Too late?  I could easily see 41's rumbling in the remaining mines, smaller crawlers pushing the rest of these junkers out to pasture.

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DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29582	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Just Thinkin' Posted: 28 Jun 2016 at 3:48pm
	Was looking at newer machines the last few weeks for a friend, he is looking between a used 455G Deere and a 931 Cat so we have been admiring the crap out there for sale for a price$$. He doesn't know heavy machinery at all but has farmed all his life and prefers to clear as he can where he can with his own machines so willing to use rentals so far and now wants his own. ANYWAY, short story longer and more boring, I am admiring how fast all these machines decay away in 15, 20 even 25 years, a 943 Cat looked like it would rust away tomorrow with those new style rails that do not last and thought back to our old monsters, some 50 some 60 years young and managing as they can doing work these machines would never finish. Just wondered why New Holland division that bought up the Fiat owned side of Allis Construction does not go ahead and manufacture HERE a machine that could revive the old name but under the new company. Too much? Too late? I could easily see 41's rumbling in the remaining mines, smaller crawlers pushing the rest of these junkers out to pasture.

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	AC and Fiat worked out a deal to fill the holes in their product line with pipe layers and the HD10 I believe than kind of merging other as AC folded heavy equipment as dealer network lost support as well as pulling regional warehousing and going to Central Distribution out of Chicago. Fiat New Holland brought dealer networks back into play but then the Case / New Holland along with the sale of Case Industrial into Fiat - same with the merging of Ford / New Holland into the grouping . I bought my Fiat Allis FD5 with 6 way dozer way cheaper than a Cat D4 at about 1/2 the price and it's a good machine - Now with the New Holland dozers -unsure of how or what the reputation is or how the parts supplies are .
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