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Does anyone know where I can find sleeves, bearings, piston rings, and gaskets for a good price? I seen a full rebuild kit online that included pistons but it was 2 grand for some reason?? While all the other ones for the gas motors were wayy cheaper. Any suggestions and ideas are appreciated as well as anything to look out for while im rebuilding it. Thanks God bless-Joey
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the diesel engine in the D17 is difficult to source parts for and can be quite expensive to repair. It’s not insurmountable, but it will be considerably more costly, labor intensive, and require much more time searching for parts than the gas D17. Not to mention the high probability of expensive machine work required to the block, if you discover that the sleeves have sunk. Very common on these engines, and if not addressed, a quality repair can’t be achieved.
If you tear it down, check the head closely for cracks, have it pressure tested for leaks. Inspect the sleeves for proper standout (protrusion) above the deck surface of block - .002-.004” the common theme is sunken sleeves, blown head gasket and cracked cylinder head. There are plenty of threads on this forum that discuss these issues, if you want to do some digging.

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Yep hard to find parts and very expensive to redo a buda these days
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I'm gonna take the head of and check it, if it is bad, could you repower it with a gas engine? I know they are i4s but I don't know if the hookup is different. -Joey
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There are enough differences between the gas and diesel tractors to make it a difficult swap, unless you find a 262 gas engine in good condition to use as a donor engine. The frame rails, steering shaft, and hoods are longer on the diesel tractor, along with a few other minor differences. The major issue is the difference in length of the clutch shaft, the gas and diesel clutch shafts aren’t interchangeable. That’s quite a job to swap out a clutch shaft (more or less disassembly of the tractor from the transmission forward) and finding a good shaft to use may take some patience and work.
What are the symptoms that have you believing that your engine needs overhauled?

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  I thought the sleeves drop only on the turbo D 19 ???   Maybe I am wrong.
2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040   R50       
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I bought it for 500 and it doesn't run, I think someone has added a head as it isn't orange its grey?? I don't know the condition of the pistons. I figured it wouldn't hurt to inspect, plus I don't know the job the previous guy did. It hasn't ran in probably a decade.
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Get it running. Then make an assessment if it is worth sticking money into.

There could be other problems than just the engine.
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There is alot more then just the engine that needs fixed, I want to restore it and sell it but I want to know if I should just look for a different motor or not. But looking at how much work I would have to go through on changing it out, I think I'll just have to stick to my guns and fix it.

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I agree. Get it running before you open that can of worms. Right now, you’re into it cheap enough. As soon as you pull the head off, everything changes
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Alright I'll work on getting it running and then go from there. Thank you guys for the help.

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Well i forgot to mention this but I did take some of it off this morning and I noticed the coolant system was rusty. Thoughts?
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That’s pretty typical of these old machines. Hopefully it had enough coolant concentration in it that it hasn’t ever frozen. You could start by buttoning everything up, filling the cooling system and putting a pressure tester on the radiator. 8-10 psi, leave overnight if it will hold pressure. Drain the oil and leave the drain plug out to see if coolant makes it into the crankcase. This would quickly tell you if you have major problems from the start

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Oh you guys don't know the project im in for, the radiator and entire coolant system is don't for, radiator has a mud dobber nest in it. And I drained the oil and 3 gallons of water came out jo rust just water and then a gallon of oil.
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There was no coolant in any of the lines or the radiator.
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I don't think you realize what you're getting in to. Are you prepared to spend at least $1,000 bucks getting the injection pump and injectors reconditioned so it can even run ???
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I don't think you realize what you're getting in to. Are you prepared to spend at least $1,000 bucks getting the injection pump and injectors reconditioned so it can even run ???




I don’t want to sound like the school yard bully either. But if you can’t get it running in the conditions it is in,

1. You are in over your head mechanically.
2. You will soon be in over your head financially.

If you have no prior Allis-Chalmers mechanical experience, the Buddha is the worst place to start learning.

I was young and eager too once. The lessons are time consuming or expensive. Sometimes both.

Nobody is saying forget about it, but you need to do an insane amount of research to proceed effectively.

Does this thing even turn over with a battery?

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Originally posted by JosephD17III JosephD17III wrote:

... I want to restore it and sell it ...

I truly hope you do not expect to profit monetarily from this endeavor Ouch
Best wishes!
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i am doing mine right now cam is off geting rebiuld  block has been decked and counter bored finally found a head that is rebiuldable pump has been done  injectors still need to be done havent got the bill on the cam yet still have to turn the crank   this engine will hit 6000$ in parts and machine shop bills if icharged my self our shop rate this would be wellover 10,000$ engine     so you had better take the head off and get a real good hard look the head under the valve seats look at your deck  and liner projection   
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3 gallons of water (not coolant) coming out of the oil pan just cost you more $$$$$$ and a $2K OH kit almost for sure.  Engines left outside with the exhaust not being covered well are bad news.
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sell the trans, final drives, sheet metal and front axle and get your money back...  Start over with a gas tractor..
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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let me know how your head looks after  the valves are out and its magnafluxed if it gets parted out
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Google money pit,at best you might get the cost of parts back out of the tractor.For instance I know where there is a nice D17 gas,WF,3pt runs and operates good they are asking $2500 and I'd be afraid to offer $2000 if I didn't want it.
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"You want to restore and sell it"? As long as you don't mind loosing your butt you might sell it.
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