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Clay 
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 Topic: Pumping ballast into tire
Posted: Yesterday at 5:37pm |
I need to pump liquid ballast into the tire on a 180 diesel. Local tire shop wants $50 to show up (a three mile drive) and $75 to pump the liquid into the tire. HIGHWAY ROBERY!!!!!!!!!! Also did not care for the attitude from the guy I talked to at the tire shop. Any suggestions on making an adapter to pump in the liquid? It was easy to remove the liquid but pumping it in might be a different adventure.
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WF owner
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Posted: Yesterday at 5:52pm |
Years ago, I used an old, galvanized water pressure tank. I plumbed a hose on to the bottom of the tank and put an air/water adaptor on the end of the hose. I put the valve of the tractor tire on the top and when I had filled the tank, with water, I pressurized it with air to push the liquid in.
It might be cheaper and easier to bite the bullet and have the guy pump it in for you.
Edit: If you are using calcium chloride, it is very corrosive to anything it touches. If you are using beet juice or windshield wash, you may be able to reuse the equipment later.
I don't see why you couldn't use an air/water adaptor on a hose coming out of any kind of liquid pump. You will have to stop periodically to let air out of the tire.
Edited by WF owner - Yesterday at 6:00pm
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plummerscarin
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:07pm |
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$60-75 for a Harbor Freight transfer pump and $20 for the adapter kit from TSC. If you do it occasionally as I do, it may be worth it to DIY. I like the pressure pot system also if you can fab one up. Lots of options...
As stated by WF, I pump CC so after the fill, I pump LOTS of clear water when finished.
Though not as heavy, has anyone considered the glycol additive used in hydronic heating systems?
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:12pm |
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I used the water tank and cleaned up as much as I could. When I tried to use it a couple years later, the tank was full of pin holes where the CaCl had eaten through.
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:18pm |
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It doesn't wash off easily, fer sure
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mdm1
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:24pm |
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I would agree with the above if you are going to do more but just 1 doesn't sound bad.They have to pay the tech for all of his time(driving etc) the truck the equipment. How long for you to put something together that will work? I'd just have them do it.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:56pm |
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I used a small pto roller pump for a sprayer with the farm store tire valve. Just had to adapt a few garden or sprayer hoses.
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Ed (Ont)
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:58pm |
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I would say very reasonable quote from the tire guy! How long you gonna play around trying to do it yourself?
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Kenny L.
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:02pm |
I agree with mdm1 plus when the tire is being pump full there adapter let air out so don't have to stop and when done there adapter put the valve core in before having to remove the adapter so basically two less time for fluid to get all over the place. one more thing get a little of the  on your boots and you can kiss them bye bye and what is your time worth.
Edited by Kenny L. - Yesterday at 7:03pm
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:12pm |
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So, load it on a trailer and haul it to him and save $50 bucks.
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:51pm |
Though not as heavy, has anyone considered the glycol additive used in hydronic heating systems?
I got a 55 gallon barrel of that stuff i would sell, if someone is interested...
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:59pm |
I run a tire shop and those charges are comparable to what we charge. Our service truck minimum is also $50. Any service call that’s over 20 miles from the shop also pay mileage for any miles past the first 20. I don’t just have the cost of the truck…but also need to cover the hourly wage for the technician. I much prefer doing loaded tires at the shop. On farm service calls are more a courtesy to our customers than a way to make huge profits. Kip  |
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Clay
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Posted: 22 hours 37 minutes ago at 10:03pm |
I forgot to mention the liquid is in a plastic barrel sitting next to the tractor. Not easy to move, load and unload.
I removed the tire and rim from the tractor myself. After I removed and replaced the damaged portion of the rim, took the tire to the tire shop and had them mount the tire with new tube. Well over $160. This charge was labor and the tube. This was reasonable. My problem was the attitude of the guy I spoke with yesterday. Perhaps, he had a hangover from New Years.
Edited by Clay - 22 hours 28 minutes ago at 10:12pm
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Posted: 20 hours 48 minutes ago at 11:52pm |
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I buy beet juice by the 275gl tote and use a 1/2" double diaphragm pump without problems. Got all kinds of calcium around here if anybody needs any.
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Posted: 15 hours 60 minutes ago at 4:40am |
One of these:
and a 10-20 gpm pump is about all you'll need...
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Posted: 13 hours 29 minutes ago at 7:11am |
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Sounds reasonable and don't worry about the attitude you're doing business not marrying him.To think about it I don't like the Old Lady's attitude sometimes either but so it goes.
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nella(Pa)
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Posted: 13 hours 19 minutes ago at 7:21am |
 DanWi wrote:
I used a small pto roller pump for a sprayer with the farm store tire valve. Just had to adapt a few garden or sprayer hoses. |
put a pump on the tractor pto that can make 10lbs of pressure or more and fill your tire. let out all of the air start pumping in the balast, when the tire belly is gone let out the air and repeat until the tire is full of balast. Why not pay yourself instead of the tire guy! I do all of mine this way. 4020 has a 1000rpm pto.
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$160,, hell that aint bad,,,, lot of work in it but theres tricks ,,,
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Posted: 12 hours 15 minutes ago at 8:25am |
Here's how Pete at "Just a Few acres Farm" does it. https://youtu.be/FLb5yxijg6w?si=1_6IwRHNEG8R0y52 Fluid filling starts about 11:40.
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Posted: 8 hours 29 minutes ago at 12:11pm |
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I did enjoy watching the video. I had 1 rear tire replaced on my WD-45 this year. Had to have new fluid as the tire was cracked and finally blew while brush mowing. They came out and took care off everything. Not cheap but I really had no desire or the real means to do it. I think your real problem is you don't want to give the guy .05 because you don't like him and you're doing your best to find a way to avoid that. We've all been there. Look for someone else and see what they want.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Posted: 1 hour 7 minutes ago at 7:33pm |
Gary Burnett wrote:
Sounds reasonable and don't worry about the attitude you're doing business not marrying him.To think about it I don't like the Old Lady's attitude sometimes either but so it goes. |
Gary that is the funniest thing I've heard this year!!! By the way does your old lady ( I mean wife) read this page??? Lol. 
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