Need help with 302 baler knotter

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   I have a 302 baler that tied fine for years, now it mis-ties on both sides about every 3rd bale. Just had the dealer baler expert out for 5 hours, it now ties when turned over by hand, ties at an idle, ties at 1500 engine rpm, but starts to miss tie at 1900 rpm. Engine speed at 540 PTO is 2160 and it will mis-tie every other or more bales at this speed. Anyone have any ideas? The mis-tied knots have a string between the 2 end tails of the knot and this is the string that is already attached to the bale, when you pull on it like picking up the bale, the string slides out of the knot.

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silasfsmith Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 10 May 2017 Location: Cedar Lake, IN Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote silasfsmith Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Need help with 302 baler knotter Posted: 10 May 2017 at 4:24pm
	I have a 302 baler that tied fine for years, now it mis-ties on both sides about every 3rd bale. Just had the dealer baler expert out for 5 hours, it now ties when turned over by hand, ties at an idle, ties at 1500 engine rpm, but starts to miss tie at 1900 rpm. Engine speed at 540 PTO is 2160 and it will mis-tie every other or more bales at this speed. Anyone have any ideas? The mis-tied knots have a string between the 2 end tails of the knot and this is the string that is already attached to the bale, when you pull on it like picking up the bale, the string slides out of the knot.

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Stan R Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Location: MA Points: 996	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stan R Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2017 at 4:32pm
	Lots of adjustments on a baler but here are some possibilities: tension on twine ok? Bale of twine busted up? Cutter knife sharp? Needles go up thru the knotter right dimensions? Needle brake adjusted correct? Wear groove from twine in needles? Best to get a book on it and set it up step by step...... if you are tie-ing a knot without any hay in it, you need to pull on the string that is in the chamber while the knoters cycle. But be careful, there are danger areas in the chamber.

DougS Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougS Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2017 at 4:32pm
	Are the billhooks worn? Otherwise check the alignment and spacings everywhere they specify in the owners manual. Check for play wherever there is a bearing surface. Edited by DougS - 10 May 2017 at 4:33pm

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2017 at 9:30pm
	Take the string tensioner apart and look for deep groves where the strings run. MACK