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Is this the right shade for AC blue?

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    Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 9:17pm
We are lettering a old semi truck we repainted. We thought it would be fun to match it up with the logos from a 1940's Allis Chalmers advertising book. Is this the right shade of blue?



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David, the idea is great and it looks good but I think the blue was more navy blue; as pictured it looks as if it has too much royal blue in it.
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Yeah it was a darker blue, almost black.  My neighbor has an old All Crop drill that is all original with the blue decals and they look just like this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-Blue-Diamond-6-Decal-NEW-FREE-SHIPPING-/311561861771?hash=item488a88ba8b:m:mT2y8xPhx9xTRLplhHvGX1A




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the color blue you have Olive....looks better I think....prolly not the right color, but would look nicer on the truck
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Originally posted by VAfarmboy VAfarmboy wrote:

Yeah it was a darker blue, almost black.  My neighbor has an old All Crop drill that is all original with the blue decals and they look just like this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-Blue-Diamond-6-Decal-NEW-FREE-SHIPPING-/311561861771?hash=item488a88ba8b:m:mT2y8xPhx9xTRLplhHvGX1A


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Also...olivetroad...I'm a member of the "correct police"....you're missing the hyphen between "Allis" and "Chalmers". Lol
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Looks perfect to me. Really, really cool! Next time I go to Lake of the Ozarks I will have to stop to see itin person! Kingdom City is where I get off the interstate. Thanks for sharing!
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Sure looks very close to me.  Great idea.
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Originally posted by Michael Crowe Michael Crowe wrote:

David, the idea is great and it looks good but I think the blue was more navy blue; as pictured it looks as if it has too much royal blue in it.



Hi Michael - I'll see if they have a more navy shade - thanks!
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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:


Originally posted by VAfarmboy VAfarmboy wrote:


Yeah it was a darker blue, almost black.  My neighbor has an old All Crop drill that is all original with the blue decals and they look just like this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-Blue-Diamond-6-Decal-NEW-FREE-SHIPPING-/311561861771?hash=item488a88ba8b:m:mT2y8xPhx9xTRLplhHvGX1A




x2.

Also...olivetroad...I'm a member of the "correct police"....you're missing the hyphen between "Allis" and "Chalmers". Lol


Thanks Creston, I'll have him add that - good catch!
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This is an original AC sign showing the blue.  Your sign is close.




Edited by Larry in NC - 08 Mar 2017 at 6:25am
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Yep...ya gotta be careful showing colors on computer screens, cause it may depend on how their screen is adjusted. 
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Originally posted by JayIN JayIN wrote:

Looks perfect to me. Really, really cool! Next time I go to Lake of the Ozarks I will have to stop to see itin person! Kingdom City is where I get off the interstate. Thanks for sharing!

Stop in any time!  We like visitors - We have lots of old Allis pictures hanging on the walls to look at.
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Looks good to me and the original paint is almost impossible to replicate because the original paint was lead paint.
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We had to do something to spruce up this old truck.  We just use it in the fall pulling a hopper bottom between farms and back to the bins.  But now it might haul a tractor to a show or two?

Poor old Paystar, it was ugly even when it was new.  Whoever the former owner was that installed a new crate engine from Cummins in it in 2004 must not have done the math on the economics of paystar resale value!




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Originally posted by FloydKS FloydKS wrote:

Yep...ya gotta be careful showing colors on computer screens, cause it may depend on how their screen is adjusted. 
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I am thinking the correct police won't like that international no mater what you do with the decals..... lol. To each his own but I think those IH trucks look better red or white.
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Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

I am thinking the correct police won't like that international no mater what you do with the decals..... lol. To each his own but I think those IH trucks look better red or white.

This is true!

But its mine so its going to be a Allis-Chalmers truck from now on!
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I think the truck looks awesome!
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You could always get an Allis Chalmers strip off something like a D15 to replace the IH one.
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Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

You could always get an Allis Chalmers strip off something like a D15 to replace the IH one.

Thats a good idea, Ill go check our junkyard for the strip....
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Or just add the A-C strip under the International one....  
IMHO  (or, ....on my screen) the blue color that you were looking at looks really nice ,even if it isn't quite the original A-C color. 
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Yea, They might be considered ugly. To me they look like and old, wild bull, ready to tear something up.
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Originally posted by olivetroad olivetroad wrote:


Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

I am thinking the correct police won't like that international no mater what you do with the decals..... lol. To each his own but I think those IH trucks look better red or white.


This is true!

But its mine so its going to be a Allis-Chalmers truck from now on!

I was just trying to figure out where to put the cream on it. Maybe the grill... but some nice cream highlights would help with the ac look.... I have nothing against what you are doing with it just found the decal color question funny.
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Don't know if the colour is correct but it looks awesome. So does the old paystar!!!! LOL. That truck with the Cummins will last forever unlike the new stuff that runs 2 days and then spends 2 weeks in shop. And 1 visit to shop will cost more than that complete truck. You will look good coming to shows etc. And everyone will recognize you a mile away. :-)  
And like Creston said don't forget the hyphen. LOL.


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Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

Originally posted by olivetroad olivetroad wrote:


Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

I am thinking the correct police won't like that international no mater what you do with the decals..... lol. To each his own but I think those IH trucks look better red or white.


This is true!

But its mine so its going to be a Allis-Chalmers truck from now on!

I was just trying to figure out where to put the cream on it. Maybe the grill... but some nice cream highlights would help with the ac look.... I have nothing against what you are doing with it just found the decal color question funny.



We actually originally painted the wheels/hubs cream and it really looked bad. For some reason, it just didn't look right. I'm wondering now about painting the grill blue to match the letters? Or cream pinstripes?
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I am not surprised the wheels looked wrong cream. It would be kind of wimpy on a tuff truck. I tried to picture the fenders cream but can't see it working. I like the pin striping idea and maybe the black outline around the grill. The grill looks big to be cream bit then I thought that on my d15 until after I got it painted and liked it. The grill only behind the black in cream might look good sort of like the black bars on some of the d serries.
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