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Is there a way to take these apart to rebuild?
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I'd like to know as well. I went through heck getting the tie rods off my 8N when I painted it. None of the nuts were rusted, but the taped threaded part just spun. It took forever to get those nuts off. I think one I just cut off. Needless to say, I got new tie rod ends. 
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Is that the drag link from the gearbox to the front? Parts book doesn't show a separate part. Good machine shop could probably weld a new end on if you can find a source.
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Is there a way to take these apart to rebuild?

No, buy new ones.  They do not cost much.
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As far as getting them off, I have had luck with an appropriate sized pickle fork, hammered in to keep some tension on as you take the nut off.  Been thinking about getting one of these, for those stubborn nuts:

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Aaron,   Yes it is the drag link from the gearbox down to the front end. Did they make those so that the ends can't easily be replaced? The tractor is at our farm in Iowa so I can't look at it myself. Is there any option other than replacing the entire drag link? Has anyone ever tried to put zerk fittings in the ends?    Jim
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Originally posted by Jim-Ohio Jim-Ohio wrote:

Aaron,   Yes it is the drag link from the gearbox down to the front end. Did they make those so that the ends can't easily be replaced? The tractor is at our farm in Iowa so I can't look at it myself. Is there any option other than replacing the entire drag link? Has anyone ever tried to put zerk fittings in the ends?    Jim
I see how yours is, and it looks similar to the way my 8N is. The end link IS the whole rod! I couldn't think of any other alternative, so I just cut the end off and welded a new one on. You might just replace the whole thing if you can find one. I couldn't find any for my 8N that were just like the original, so I just worked with what I had.
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I'm thinking you can weld one on or have a shop drill and tap the end of the drag link for a new joint. I suppose you could drill for a week but the damage is already done.
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YOU CAN REPLACE IT WITH TIE ROD FOR A ADJ. WIDE FRONT W D
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I've done it on a C.....easiest way is to cut it off and go to NAPA and get one you can weld on.  The new ones are tapped for zerks.
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TRW ES150 and weld them on.
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