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AC7060IL
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Topic: New 7030 & 7050 promoPosted: 15 Jan 2017 at 9:49pm |
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Back in 1973, did AC's dealerships offer lots of field demonstrations for farmers to test drive the new 7030 & 7050 tractors? Anyone on here remember?
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Sherman Farms
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:23pm |
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There was a big field demonstration held on the north side of Columbus of Ohio in a large field that was soon to be full of houses. There were several 7050s and 7030s with plows discs that the public could drive. Everyone received hats and plastic rain coats plus lots of refreshments. It was a really big deal with lots dealers and farmers.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 8:24am |
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When did AC loose the black face cabs to the all orange cabs?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 9:02am |
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Late 73 or early 1974.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 9:40am |
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My 1974 7030 had the black front, I thought they kept that until they went with the flat front cab but not sure. There were no demo days around here because that was during what they called a tractor shortage, good grain prices and if you wanted one you bought it when available or wait 6 months to a year to get one.
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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 9:49am |
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The black mask was only on the early 7050 and 7030. The 7040 and red 7060 and 7080 had the curved cab front. The flat face came with the black belly tractors in I believe 78.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 10:13am |
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Thanks Jim. That sounded like a great day. Wish I could have been there. Do you still have your AC hat & raincoat? |
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Thanks DrAllis. I was hoping that you might know of a serial number break for it? Other than photos, I've never seen one. I've heard then called "bandits" cause of the black mask cab. Anyone on here own a bandit? |
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 2:51pm |
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My 7050 has all orange paint early 1974 serial number! Not been repainted!
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I went to a farm sale in the 90's that was all allis tractors and equipment and a few deutz North east Columbus, Ohio! Les Wexner who was a real estate and business giant up there owned it and the huge farm!
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 6:32pm |
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I bet a black face cab on an acousta cab II, with black chasi would have been sharp. Darrel
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 6:47pm |
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I thought it was only the first year the 7030 and 7050,s came out , next year was orange
or whatever color they were, in my own opinion , I liked the Maroon paint on the early 7000,s ; I can remember a few sales that I was at in the 80,s when the AG Economy tanked, guys were joking that AC didn't have enough money to paint a tractor one color ,, of coarse it was JD guys ,, narrow minded JD guys!
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 7:15pm |
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It probebly costed more to paint them two colors over one when you paint a deere you just go to town and paint every thing on a Allis you have to take time to to paint it two colors and make her shine.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 8:56pm |
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The 7030/50 production was in 73/74 -- there were actually a few delivered in Dec 1972 and some 7060's were built in 74. Most of the 30/50's were built in 1973 and early 74. Only the first few say 200 had the black cab front. The acceptance of the 7000 series was mixed. The replacement for the 210/220 was a different color orange, felt more sluggish, and the hp problems were ramped . The fuel had a top draw from a plastic tube, the fuel pumps had no torque screws and generally had to go head to head with tractors not weighted like the 7000s were , and were generally more hp and peppier than the 7030/50 were.
The early units had a torque limiter that easily slipped and resulted in some erratic clutch operation from a clutch that suffered from some machining tolerance in clutch pistons and resulting sealing. The mechanics knew nothing of the new hydraulic systems and the resulting learning curves didn't let the units get off to a super quick start. But times were good and dealers were off to the hp races. Some dealers took to the the new units and sold in #'s , others lamented the loss of simplicity of the 210/220
and fell by the wayside. The 7000/8000, once the original bug were killed, has proved to be the most durable power train and hydraulic system in their hp class of all competitors - in that era.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 10:38pm |
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Yep! Them new anteater Allis's sure looked like crap compared to what I knew! LOL I graduated in 74 and the new AC's were hard to appreciate.I do remember our dealer having a 4wd out front with 2 exhaust pipes.Didn't know what it was at the time...musta been the 8550,so I guess I got to look at a NEW one but was just a dumb kid.
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Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 4:51am |
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Dad bought a new 73 7030 in Oaklahoma. Couldnt find one in Indiana. Oklahoma had some because they were having a bad drought. It was an all orange cab. Ive been around Allis all my life. Ive never heard of or seen a black front one. Learned something today! Thanks! Dad sold it when he semi retired to one of our friends that had a reputation of being able to tear up an anvil with a rubber mallet. I drove by there last week and it was on an auger at the grain bins! It was a good very modern tractor at the time. Still very useful today.
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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I treasure the stories like you shared - thanks. Things were not always rosy. And, like JiminND commented, there was a tractor shortage during these years, which may have been a blessing for AC, given the necessary time to re-work tolerances, torque limiter, & learning curves. I always figured the early AC One-Ninety transmission issue was their only huge debacle. Despite all, I give AC credit for being the innovator. New features are never cheap & seldom right the first go around. Makes me appreciate AC even more.
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Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 12:33pm |
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Still have the raincoat. Sure it would fall apart if I tried to wear it. Too small now must have shrunk.
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Hahaha... That is great! Let's see.. that would make that raincoat 44years old, this year. Wow! Thanks for sharing. |
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I'm not sure I understand I have a '75 maroon 7060, with orange cab... front is flat. |
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Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 6:56am |
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Yeah, Im confused, too. (but whats new)
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Here is another way to describe it. Just below the windshield of the 70xx cabs are two lower "cultivating view" windows. At least that is what I call them. There is one on lower left & lower right. They enabled operator a more comfortable view of row crop when cultivating. On the Maroon belly, these windows had an extended metal housing of the cab above them (bump-out or curved-outward). The Black bellies did not have this extension; hence they have a flat transition from windshield to lower windows. |
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