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NEVER green ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Location: MN. Points: 8568 |
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With engine on a dyno just changing the non synthetic to synthetic increases HP, proven results.
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2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50
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DougS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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If nothing else, the old commercial where they claim that 80% of your engine wear occurs during warmup is true. Those who live in the South may not notice cold weather issues as much as those in the North. I grew up in the Midwest and remember those sub-zero mornings where the engine would never really warm up completely. It's a proven fact that synthetics flow much more readily when cold than mineral oils. It may take several minutes for mineral oils to squeak through the tiny passages whereas synthetic oil will be flowing freely even when bone cold. Your oil filter bypass may be open during these cold starts as well. As others here have noted, cold engines turn over more easily with synthetic oil. You can change your mineral oil every 3000 miles and get pretty good results with it. Count me among the old and lazy. I prefer not to spend my life under my car.
Edit: Don't get me started on synthetic ATF. I've changed brownish ATF mineral oil at 30,000 miles to synthetic and ran the synthetic ATF for 90,000 miles, only to see that oil still with its nice red tint. Edited by DougS - 21 May 2015 at 10:48am |
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VFDfireman ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2013 Location: South Dakota Points: 414 |
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Sorry bud nothing more than marketing hype...kinda like the k+n filter adds. The gains or losses are fractional at best and are easily lost in the mathematical noise of the dyno. Synthetics have better cold flow properties and heat break down resistance (kinda moot point on a engine with a functional cooling system) properties and that's it. The rest of the performance characteristics are made up by the additive package of the oil, TBN, antiwear additives etc. I've seen several UOAs on conventional oils with a robust additive pkg exceed a supposedely superior synthetic oil. I see it all the time in HDEO (diesel) oils. My ford 6.7l uses 5w40 in the winter only because it starts better and is reccomended by Ford. Other wise 15w40 is used in the other months of the year as my UOAs are better and its better on my pocket book. Bottom line is there is much more to it than just blindly saying synthetic is better. By that thinking you are leaving dollars on the table with no real benefit. I definitely reccomend Blackstone. |
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Mrgoodwrench ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: CHICORA PA Points: 2087 |
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To those who think synthetic makes no difference...why at the same interval in the same engine is synthetic oil cleaner?
I'd believe synthetic blend is a marketing ploy although I have been using it in my gas engines. But that is mostly because if you catch an oil change special at the parts store its only about $1 more than the good conventional. |
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There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!!
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blue924.9 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 2013 Location: George Iowa Points: 1089 |
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Bought a olds lss with the 3800 v6 for a pig barn car haf 220k on it when I got it and went to change the oil at 223k and learned the oil was last changed at 170k THAT'S RIGHT 170K 50 thousand miles on an oil change, already had it drained when I found out or I would have got some to be tested. Of course with the new oil it started a tick and a knock but oh well I guess |
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hi my names dan, I am a young guy. i have a problem, i prefer my tractors orange and my clutches mechanical, thanks for letting me share
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9659 |
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I got 330000 miles out of my old truck runnin Quaker State. I'm sittin at 263??? on my present truck runnin Quaker State. My Stihl 031 got whatever 2 stroke I could find locally and was still runnin strong at 30 years old when it got stolen.
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