170 engine versus combine engine?

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   What is differance in a 170 gas engine and the same gas engine from combine? Will they swap out easy? Does governor work the same on them? Thanks Tracy Martin

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Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10791	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 170 engine versus combine engine? Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 9:00am
	What is differance in a 170 gas engine and the same gas engine from combine? Will they swap out easy? Does governor work the same on them? Thanks Tracy Martin
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Skyhighballoon(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skyhighballoon(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 9:38am
	Tracy, the 170 gas engine is a Z code 8:1 compression 226 engine. Later E combines and all EIII combines had the same Z code 8:1 226 engine. The combine engines have an opening for the cam driven mechanical fuel pump that would have to be plated off to use in a tractor. Combine governors are set to basically idle and high idle at 1600 rpms with not much in between. So you'd need a tractor governor if you swap. I'm not sure about the E but the EIII uses electrical sending units for the gauges. Not sure if the 170 still had mechanical ones or not. Also I think the combine front pulley is specific to it so you'd want to keep the tractor pulley. But in general it should bolt right up.
	1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers

Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10791	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 9:45am
	Mike, my One Seventy has electrical gages. I bought a 170 that has what appears to be a combine engine in it.Block looks like early One Seventy with delete for fuel pump. I didn't really see any other changes that stuck out. I think governor needs adjusting or replacing. Not sure what the internals look like between the two engines. Thought someone that has swapped them could tell me. Hopefully someone will chime in and get me headed in right direction.Thanks Tracy Martin
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Skyhighballoon(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skyhighballoon(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 10:08am
	Tracy - the internals on the governor? Yeah I haven't had them apart so other than studying the parts books I couldn't tell you the specifics. Mike
	1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers

SteveM C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8629	Post Options Post Reply Quote SteveM C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 10:44am
	Never looked at the E set-up to see how it worked.....the gov weights are shaped different on the ramp.Odd thing is you can have one of each on shaft against brg and they both contact the brg through their travel.Looking at them you wouldn't think they could. I had E wieghts in my 45 for over 25 yrs. A liitle jumpy in certain situations but no real problems generally.Put stockers back in 2yrs at O/H. My A2 (230-6) had a limiting speed gov and the throttle cable worked the butterfly on carb.It wanted to run at high idle always and you were just manually slowing rpm by forcing butterfly closed. At part throttle there was no "govenor action". Edited by SteveM C/IL - 02 Aug 2012 at 10:58am