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freonjohn 
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:20am |
I have an old Allis Chalmer I need to identify. I have no info. on this tractor, but would like to get it running. I got some numbers off of it and they are SW-35787 and maybe a DL15S? Any help would be appreciated. 
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:25am |
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D17 series 3 or 4 with the oval muffler. If the hyd pump is in the belt pulley its a series 4
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start
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Gary
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:26am |
Looks like a Model D-17, built from 1957 to 1967, replaced the WD-45. Gary
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freonjohn
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:36am |
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Thanks for the quick reply. Any idea what year? How about series? I think it has a series II on the cowling.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:39am |
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Definately a series 4.....1964 to 1967.
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Gary
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:43am |
D-17 1957 - 1959 Ser. 1960 - 1962 Ser. III 1963 - 1964 Ser. IV 1964 - 1967 Gary
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Travis(NE)
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Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 8:37am |
Serial number should be on the flat spot of the torque tube here (red circle) starting with a D17 followed by the numbers... 
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freonjohn
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 7:54am |
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The ignition switch is gone. Any idea how to bypass the key switch to see if I can get it running before I dump any real money into it? How about a wiring diagram?
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 8:01am |
 freonjohn wrote:
The ignition switch is gone. Any idea how to bypass the key switch to see if I can get it running before I dump any real money into it? How about a wiring diagram? |
Hot wire it, i.e. run a wire from the battery to the coil and have at it.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 10:38am |
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To the coil primary terminal not hooked to the distributor.
Then you'll need some way to power the starter, probably another wire from battery temporarily to starter solenoid unless it has a directly operated switch like WC and WD. Rednecks would jump the starter solenoid posts (if on the starter) with a big screwdriver. Those that remember to put the tractor out of gear usually survive. A few that scramble fast don't get run over but have to chase down the tractor or wait for it to run out of gas.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 10:41am |
The D17, has a starter solenoid behind the back of the block, under the battery tray, next to the air cleaner. I think it would be just fine to find a 15.00 key switch, you will only need to hook up three wires to test if it runs. Which I am sure it won't, the carb will be full of varnish, and the points will need to be filed at the least. The very first thing I would do is see if the engine is still loose, can you turn it over, by grabbing the fan blade, and using the other hand to keep the belt tight?
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freonjohn
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 5:51pm |
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I can turn the engine by hand. I even jumped the starter and it did turn the engine. I was using a small wire, so I didn't turn it much. Just enough to see if the motor was locked up. What would you suggest i do first? Should I just remove carb and have cleaned?
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 6:29pm |
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I keep a small plastic gastank in the shop for ocasions like this. You can open the drain plug in the bottom of the carb and let gas run through until clean and fresh and try it.
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