D14 PTO QUESTION/PROBLEM

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LAST YEAR MY PTO GOT STUCK WHILE ROTOTILLING AND WHEN I WENT TO DISENGAGE THE PTO THE ROLL PIN SNAPED. TODAY I FINALLY GOT SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I GOT THE ROLL PIN OUT AND REPLACED IT WITH A BOLT. BUT THE PROBLEM I AM HAVING IS THE COLLAR WONT SLIDE IT IS STUCK ON THE FRONT SHAFT. HAS ANYBODY RUN INTO THIS BEFORE AND IS THERE A TRICK TO GET THE COLLAR TO MOVE. THE SPLINS LOOK OK I LOOKED WITH AN INSPECTION MIRROR BUT AS YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE COLLOR OR SHAFT MAKING IT NOT TO BE ABLE TO SLIDE. I AM DOOING ALL THIS WORK THROUGH THE INSPECTION HOLE. SNY HELP IS GREATLY APPRICIATED 
CHRIS 

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allis d14 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: hollis nh Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote allis d14 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: D14 PTO QUESTION/PROBLEM Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 5:22pm
	LAST YEAR MY PTO GOT STUCK WHILE ROTOTILLING AND WHEN I WENT TO DISENGAGE THE PTO THE ROLL PIN SNAPED. TODAY I FINALLY GOT SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I GOT THE ROLL PIN OUT AND REPLACED IT WITH A BOLT. BUT THE PROBLEM I AM HAVING IS THE COLLAR WONT SLIDE IT IS STUCK ON THE FRONT SHAFT. HAS ANYBODY RUN INTO THIS BEFORE AND IS THERE A TRICK TO GET THE COLLAR TO MOVE. THE SPLINS LOOK OK I LOOKED WITH AN INSPECTION MIRROR BUT AS YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE COLLOR OR SHAFT MAKING IT NOT TO BE ABLE TO SLIDE. I AM DOOING ALL THIS WORK THROUGH THE INSPECTION HOLE. SNY HELP IS GREATLY APPRICIATED CHRIS

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wfmurray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Bostic NC Points: 1225	Post Options Post Reply Quote wfmurray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 5:38pm
	I had same problem when bush hoging . You have twisted the splines on the short shaft . You can remove it with out taking tractor apart. I took a 41/2 side grinder and got mine freed up . you need a slip clutch because you might not be as lucky next time.

allis d14 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: hollis nh Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote allis d14 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 6:26pm
	so did you cut the collar off and get a new one. did you have to file the splines chris

wfmurray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Bostic NC Points: 1225	Post Options Post Reply Quote wfmurray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 8:00pm
	I got the collar loose and strightened splines with grinder . There is a notch you can use to get big snap ring out but to get it back i got a pipe coupling and made an adapter to drive it back in from rear where pto shaft comes out . You have to take freeze plug out of front but you can get one at a automotive store. The shaft has to come out . You will know you have been there when you get it repaired! GOOD LUCK!

allis d14 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: hollis nh Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote allis d14 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 8:50pm
	does the front shaft come out pretty easy. i was looking at a parts breakown do i have to worry about loosing any parts up front behind the freeze plug when i pull the shaft out.like the spacer or bearing. is it a pain to get the shift fork back in with the detent ball? thanks for all your help

wfmurray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Bostic NC Points: 1225	Post Options Post Reply Quote wfmurray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 8:11am
	Ben a while since i done mine .I think when you take out big snap ring you can nock it out from freeze plug end. For some reason i drove the shaft back that clutch pedel works on to make it easier to get detent ball in. Happened twicee on mine and i put slip clutch on and haven,t had any more troble.

allis d14 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: hollis nh Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote allis d14 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 7:32pm
	going to try a little heat tomorrow. looked at the splines with a mirror and all looks good. maybe if i heat it up alitttle it will relax the collar and it may move. if not i have to pull the front shaft out or split the tractor. i keep everybody posted