Decal placement on E 25-40

Come on Guys, surely someone on here has restored a 25-40.  Dave.

Sorry can't help ya Dave. Ours was repainted before we owned it and the decals weren't replaced. Glad to hear its almost done!

will try to get some pic of mine today 

HI, Dave, On my 25-40 there was one on the L.H. fender on the inside on the flat. It was about 1 foot high and 18 inch long looked like it had white letters but could make out it said. The light had to be just right to see it. There was A-C on back gas tank and A-C on both fenders. IT also has ALLIS-CHALMERS on the side of the hood. I will try and see if I can get my son to post some photos don't have that fidgeted out yet

Rod in MN

Thanks Guys: Phil, I also have the instruction decal for the fender. Did the 20-35 have the numbers on the fenders like the 25-40 did? I am not ready to apply the decals yet, but Darrell Grams called the other day with decal questions and got me thinking about mine. I could use the measurements for the fender decals though. I still have to reassemble the motor after wasting money sending it to Oklahoma to allow a certain character to diddle with it. I haven't got my tin work done yet , but I still am hoping to have it ready for the gathering in June.  Dave.

Dave,  Rear fender decals are as shown. One set on each rear fender. The model numbers are 13 inches from the end of the fender to the bottom of the number decal. It is 16 inches from the end of the fender to the bottom of the diamond.

The large instruction decal is about in the center of the fender panel and measures 3 1/4 inches from the top of the decal to the top of the fender.

The small oil filter, water drain and clutch lube decals are obvious in the pics. I don't know about the tank diamond decal. I've seen some with this and some without. (Sorry about the blurry pics, but I think you can make them out.)


Edited by Alberta Phil - 22 Mar 2014 at 2:31pm

Gary is there a way to bring up pictures on the Owners Registry?

And even "original" may not be truly original.  What I mean is, look at this video from YouTube and pause it at 9 seconds in.  To me it looks like the TRUE original decals were painted over and new (still very old) decals were applied over the original decals.  You can see the faded outline in the bottom of the numbers where they didn't put them directly on top it appears.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, this is just what it looks like to me.  My point is, much as Fred was getting at, that what is truly original is hard to know.  These tractors are 80+ years old, and most all have been repainted at some point, even if that was very early in its life (which this example appears to have been).  And on top of all of that, do you really think that they were laying them out with a tape measure at the factory?  Highly unlikely in my opinion.  They put them on and if they were a little crooked, or off center, it was OK.  There are many documented examples of this on newer Allis tractors.  I have a WD (original paint, or lack there of) that the hood decals are different from side to side for one example. 

Edited by Jacob (WI,ND) - 22 Mar 2014 at 7:34pm

The person David is referring too used to frequent this site, but hasn't been seen in years on here. He hails from Chelsea, OK, or at least he used to and that's as far as I'm willing to go.

Then I am good also. Dave.