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    Posted: 16 Aug 2022 at 10:55am
Ok, so I have a farmhand silage box on a Minnesota running gear that I am trying to sell. Now if any of you are familiar with this style box, I have a question. It does not have an apron chain; but instead has a large auger that runs front to back, and has a mechanism that runs the auger across and back on the floor to deliver the product to the discharge chain conveyer. Now I have a gentleman who is interested in buying it from me, but wants to use it as a wagon for picking corn, in other use it for ear corn. Will this style of box work for ear corn?
Thanks, Darrel
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We used to have one of those.  It did a very nice job of unloading chopped forage evenly, much more evenly than the ratcheting apron chain style.  It's downfall for us was where the anchoring cables attached rotted out and something more / less sprung out of whack and it was never the same.

We never used it for ear corn, for one thing, it was covered.  I wonder what he plans to unload into?  Meaning, I tend to think it would work, but would unload very quickly and not  a lot of things can handle lots of ear corn like that?  Interesting question.  
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Thanks T-bone.
He said that he plans on unloading into a conveyer elevator and into a corn crib.
As badly as I want to sell this to him, I am afraid that it won't work for him.
Thinking that a plain old gravity wagon is really all that he needs, not?
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Not seeing your wagon, I would think a gravity box would be better.
My concern would be be how busted up would the ears get from the auger?
And, a gravity box can be hitched behind almost anything, no pto required.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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When we did ear corn, we used gravity boxes, which of course you could throttle the flow with the door opening.  Well, and one flatbed wagon with removable sides, you could say I'm experienced in shoveling.

Personally, I think it would be surprising how LITTLE damage would be done to the corn by that auger.  Unless I'm misremembering, it moves very slow, and is very coarse pitched and relatively deep, and just creeps it's way across the wagon floor, not in a tube or anything.  I still envision LOTS of corn coming out that would overwhelm an elevator/ conveyor, that's what we also used to fill the crib.

But, all things said, if you express your concerns to the guy, and he wants to buy it and try it, it's his gig.  
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I agree with Tbone. If you tell him your thoughts you've done your due diligence. If he decides to use it anyway it's on him. As others have said, it might work. But on the other hand, there are reasons more people didn't do it
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Dad had several of these. One got setup to haul shelled corn, there was actually a kit for it. Essentially, there were angle iron brackets, that sloped a piece of 3/4" plywood from the top of the front divider, down towards the auger, this kept the corn from just running out, and allowed the auger to drag the corn out. I would assume you would need something similar for ear corn.
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We had H&S forage boxes with pintle floor chain and same with the unloading chain. They had augers up front for unloading. We picked ear corn into them just once as the unloaded fast and also shelled the corn! The shelled corn wasn't bad as we were grinding it. Just had to keep your hand on the pto lever to stop from overloading the grinder.
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