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Lon(MN) 
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 9:30am |
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I am looking for a bench vise that can keep up with a 16 pound hammer and six foot cheater bar. What should I be looking at.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 9:39am |
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Spend your Christmas money and get a hydraulic one. That's what's on my wish list. Darrel
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 9:43am |
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Used many around the world in heavy oilfield use and broke a few by going way overboard with abuse like overhead cranes, rig air winches offshore and heavy snatch blocks.
Look for course threads as you will be tempted to cinch it down on the jaws, heavier the better and mount it on another plate that is larger than the original base so the excessive torque is more distributed.
This is one area I would spend the extra money on vs. the Chinese junk that's being peddled and likely the best bet is looking on Craig's List for anyone having a heavy equipment shop dispersal, or watch for auctions where older large units pop up.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 9:49am |
I got an old Chas. Parker vice. About 8"wide, must weigh in the neighborhood of !75 lbs. When I was about 20, I hadda 8'long cheater on it, broke the friction weld, on the main screw. was in college, at the time, took it over to the welding shop, tapered the broken ends, welded it back together, was only a little out of true. Originally this vice was my great uncle's.
also have a 6" columbian vice that was my grandfather's, it got relegated to a less used portion of the same workbench, a 4" thick slab of hickory, 18" wide, about 20' long. If you want to find one of these, they bring big bucks, at farm auctions, sometimes more than $600...
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Bull
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 10:23am |
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I have a Wilton round channel vise. It is one tough vise.
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Orange Blood
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 11:43am |
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I think Wilton are about the best today, but if you can find an old school one, they will likely be better.
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 11:47am |
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I have a Columbian that my Dad gave me years ago, just about indestructable. Dont know what they cost now.
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Arcs and Sparks
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 2:54pm |
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In our repair shop at work we had 6" and 8" vises mostly made by Ridgid. We had a forge in there and those vises were abused something terrible. I never saw one break in the 15 years I was associated with that shop. When we were bought out by a German firm they abruptly closed our shop claiming it was not a "core" business and everything was scrapped. What a waste. As with most things in life, spend a bit extra and buy quality when you buy your vise Its a one time investment that equates to a bit of short term pain for long term gain. You'll never look back. Good luck.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 3:38pm |
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I broke 2-3 different heavy chineese versions from the Farm Store. About 15 years ago I bought a RIGID made in the US and still have it.. I TRY to not get as physical as I did back then, but the new vise seems to take it well........ ANY brand can be made in china... Make sure if you get a name brand it is USA ... or maybe German.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 5:30pm |
Just saw this on on cl. Just using it as an example, I know its in a place far away...
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ctbowles 58
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 5:46pm |
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I had two wiltons and broke both of them and then my son got me one from the SNAP-ON guy,im not sure if its a SNAP-ON or not, but I do know it cost either $468.00 or $486.00 I cant remember ,but I haven't tore it up. I think its 4 yrs. old now.
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alan-nj
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 5:49pm |
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Just as important as the vice is where/how its mounted. If its not mounted securely it won't matter how big or good the vice is. takes good mounting to keep it from moving. I've got a big heavy shop vice mounted on the top of a 55 gal drum. I filled the drum with dirt and rocks up to about a foot from the top. filled the last foot with concrete and put anchor bolts in the wet cement for the vice. Most of the time it does ok, but every now and then it will want to move on me. need to anchor the drum to the floor.
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Michael V (NM)
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 6:16pm |
 DiyDave wrote:
Just saw this on on cl. Just using it as an example, I know its in a place far away...
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I've got one just like that one. I was gonna take a picture of mine an put it on here. Prolly worth close to what he's asking, I been really mean to the one I have and haven't hurt it
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Dan73
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 6:36pm |
old leg viseThat is a you tube video of someone restoring an old leg vise. Look for one of these they take a heck of alot of abuse. The one I have has been in the shed here for ever the leg doesn't even come down onto the floor it is mounted on a 2 inch thick wooden bench and has taken alot of abuse here for I have no idea how long probably 60 plus years. I use it to press tedder arms back straight all the time I use it for everything you can think of great old vise.
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acd17toy
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 7:30pm |
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I have one of those vices with the rare hard to find pipe jaws in it. It is a tuff vice that will take a lot of abuse.
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ac-mike
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Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 8:07pm |
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YOU NEED A MINIMUM OF A 6 INCH WILTON MACHINIST VISE. BEST TO NOT HAVE A SWIVEL BASE IF YOU PLAN TO PUT A LOT OF TORQUE ON IT. IT WILL NOT BREAK BUT CAN SLIP. BEST RULE OF THUMB ON A VISE IS YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I HAVE USED THIS MODEL VISE FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS DOING COMMERICAL HEAVY MAINTANCE WORK LIKE YOU HAVE DESCRIBED. NEVER BROKEN BUT DID WEAR OUT AND REPLACE THE JAWS. WILTON DOES MAKE OTHER MODELS BUT THE MACHINIST IS WHAT YOU WILL NEED. NEVER TRIED A 16LB SLEDGE BUT WOULD QUESTION WHAT WOULD REQUIRE USING THAT SIZE HAMMER IN A VISE SITUATION.
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