190 DRIVE TRAIN KNOCK

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 I'M AT A LOSS WITH A KNOCK THAT I'M GETTING ON A 190XT. WITH THE TRACTOR IN GEAR AND THE POWER DIRECTOR IN THE NEUTRAL POSITION AND THE BRAKE PRESSED I'M GETTING A HORRENDOUS KNOCK THAT SOUNDS LIKE LIKE ITS COMING FROM IN FRONT OF THE THE TORQUE TUBE, I CHECKED THE POWER DIRECTOR FROM THE INSPECTION HOLE ALL THE PLATES ARE GOOD(I JUST REPLACED THE COMPLETE P/D CLUTCH ) . 
I ALSO RELEASED THE ENGINE CLUTCH AND I GRABBED THE INPUT SHAFT THROUGH THE ROUND HOLE ON THE TORQUE TUBE AND HELD THE POWER DIRECTOR CLUTCH AND TURN THE SHAFT AND I'M GETTING ABOUT 3/4 TO 1" OF PLAY IN THE SHAFT , I'M NOT SURE THAT I SHOULD HAVE THAT   MUCH PLAY OR IF THAT IS NORMAL  HELP HELP HELP    THANKS

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SIMPLICITY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 19 Sep 2009 Location: ERATH LOUISIANA Points: 509	Post Options Post Reply Quote SIMPLICITY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 190 DRIVE TRAIN KNOCK Posted: 03 Dec 2016 at 1:10pm
	HELLO I'M AT A LOSS WITH A KNOCK THAT I'M GETTING ON A 190XT. WITH THE TRACTOR IN GEAR AND THE POWER DIRECTOR IN THE NEUTRAL POSITION AND THE BRAKE PRESSED I'M GETTING A HORRENDOUS KNOCK THAT SOUNDS LIKE LIKE ITS COMING FROM IN FRONT OF THE THE TORQUE TUBE, I CHECKED THE POWER DIRECTOR FROM THE INSPECTION HOLE ALL THE PLATES ARE GOOD(I JUST REPLACED THE COMPLETE P/D CLUTCH ) . I ALSO RELEASED THE ENGINE CLUTCH AND I GRABBED THE INPUT SHAFT THROUGH THE ROUND HOLE ON THE TORQUE TUBE AND HELD THE POWER DIRECTOR CLUTCH AND TURN THE SHAFT AND I'M GETTING ABOUT 3/4 TO 1" OF PLAY IN THE SHAFT , I'M NOT SURE THAT I SHOULD HAVE THAT MUCH PLAY OR IF THAT IS NORMAL HELP HELP HELP THANKS

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MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2016 at 8:02pm
	If engine was not running, you should be able to continue turning the shaft. Sounds like you may have a bad tooth on a reduction gear. Pull the pan under reduction gears, might find a piece of tooth laying on screen. MACK

joe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: SW Ontario Points: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote joe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2016 at 8:03pm
	LETS START WITH GETTING RID OF THE CAPTIALS. REALLY MAKES PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE YELLING AT THEM. Now with that said, what happens if you begin to engage the PD into either low or high? The one thing I can think of is: How closely did you look at the clutch when you had it apart. If I'm understanding what you mean by 3/4" to 1" of play in the shaft properly, then I tend to think that the dampening springs in the clutch are broken, beaten up the housing, allowing all that play. On the power director side, the friction discs are splined to the input shaft, and the steels are splined to the clutch housing, the the input shaft is going to be able to rotate somewhat freely in there, if it weren't for being engaged into the clutch. If it's able to rotate that much, I'd tend to think the problem may be in the clutch. In a low load situation, such as you are describing, things may get to chucking, and making a horrendous noise.