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    Posted: 19 May 2022 at 12:46pm
I am badly in need of a set of Allis 5020 Rear rims, mine are rusted out and leaking fluid. I cannot seem to find any, also have looked at Simplicity 9523. Do I have any other options on what will fit?

Better yet, does anyone have any or know of any clean rear rims for an Allis 5020, with or without tires. Will either drive to pickup or arrange shipping.

Thanks in advance.
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do you have the 24 inch AG rims or the 16 inch TURF rims.... what is the bolt pattern ?
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I have the turf rims. Here are the pictures of them. I dont know the exact bolt pattern but this is a 1984 2WD
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I have rims and tires on a couple 5020 parts tractors.
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Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

I have rims and tires on a couple 5020 parts tractors.

Any pictures of them handy? Are they clean shape?
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Isaac... i dont claim to know anything about the 5020 and i would surely look into  Garys rims if they are a direct fit...... I though the rears if AG were 16 inch diameter and 13.6 wide so probably a 12 inch rim........ Some FORDS use the 12 x 16 rim with a 6 bolt pattern and a 4.5 inch pilot hole... you would have to verify the bolt diameter, or possible drill new..... Im sure Gary has a better price.
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think any Japanese built tractor of the same era will have the same rims.  Furthermore, I think you can swap out turf rims, to 24" AG rims, its the same bolt pattern.  Check your local tractor junkyards...
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think any Japanese built tractor of the same era will have the same rims.  Furthermore, I think you can swap out turf rims, to 24" AG rims, its the same bolt pattern.  Check your local tractor junkyards...

I have been looking around for a while. No luck
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Isaac... i dont claim to know anything about the 5020 and i would surely look into  Garys rims if they are a direct fit...... I though the rears if AG were 16 inch diameter and 13.6 wide so probably a 12 inch rim........ Some FORDS use the 12 x 16 rim with a 6 bolt pattern and a 4.5 inch pilot hole... you would have to verify the bolt diameter, or possible drill new..... Im sure Gary has a better price.


That is good to know, I will have to look into that!
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I'll get some measurements,think even some 5020 rims had a different bolt patterns.Kinda odd tractors.Most Japan tractors of different brands the wheels won't interchange.
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the 24” are a different bolt spacing than the kubota.  The website above is custom building me a set as I type this.  Call and talk to Jon.  He will help you and probably can build the 16” if that ford one isn’t correct 
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Robert, do you know the bolt pattern and center hole diameter for the 5020 ??  Just curious.
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Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

I'll get some measurements,think even some 5020 rims had a different bolt patterns.Kinda odd tractors.Most Japan tractors of different brands the wheels won't interchange.

That would be great, would be interested in a factory set if you have a set that matches. Send a couple pictures or check on their condition if you can!
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I do not. However when the new rims arrive I can measure that stuff. Don't want to take the weights off any more than I have to.
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Would anyone locally be able to repair yours?

I did one on my D17, ever since I've been doing a few for the local tire guy.

If you were closer I be happy to get yours patched up.
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Originally posted by Play Farmer Play Farmer wrote:

Would anyone locally be able to repair yours?

I did one on my D17, ever since I've been doing a few for the local tire guy.

If you were closer I be happy to get yours patched up.

I wish that was an option, mine are too far gone and fluid has leaked out of the tubes now..
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Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

I'll get some measurements,think even some 5020 rims had a different bolt patterns.Kinda odd tractors.Most Japan tractors of different brands the wheels won't interchange.

Gary, did you find out anything?
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I have a set of 2050 rear rims with turf tires in good shape
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This is the
Hinomoto E23 Rear AGRICULTURAL Hub
used for the Allis Chalmers 5020.

B.C.    6x139.7
Pilot   93.1
Bolts   M16x1.5

Hinomoto used a
completely different Hub
to mount the TURF Rims.


[ This Hub is available NEW in Europe. But not any Rims. Go Figure . . . ]



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Hinomoto made both
a Rear AG Hub
and
a Rear TURF Hub
for these tractors:

     Hinomoto E23
     Allis Chalmers 5020
     Simplicity 9520
     Massey Ferguson 210-4

     Hinomoto E25



Presumably the same Hubs were used for the

      Deutz-Allis 5220






Later on Hinomoto was purchased by Hitachi so
presumably the same Hubs were used for the

      Hitachi NZ235


It's such a shame that Hitachi eventually
stopped playing with its new toy . . .

 
      

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