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ac160 
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 Topic: Bucket teeth vs no teeth
Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 11:48am |
It seems, to me anyway, that these newer skid steer style buckets are not as good for cleaning up manure or digging with a flat cutting edge compared to the older style buckets. I can use a 6070 2wd with allis loader and factory bucket and clean out around bale rings or lots with hay/manure mix faster(if dry) than I can with a different color tractor(4wd) that has the skid steer style bucket. Both buckets are the same width.
Is it worth getting a bolt on toothbar or bucket with teeth vs staying with just a regular cutting edge for things like manure? What are your experiences?
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Tbone95
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 2:03pm |
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If you have hay and or bedding packed in, teeth help a lot, no matter what color paint is on them. It’s just physics…er something like that! 😂
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 2:11pm |
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Edited by Tbone95 - 28 Feb 2025 at 2:11pm
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DiyDave
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 2:21pm |
Bolt on tooth bars are a pain in the lower anatomy. I just ordered 5 bolt on type teeth from digger's supply, cost me $104, a tooth bar would have cost $3-400, for the same machine. THe bar part of the tooth bar is what causes the problems. It thickens up the front edge of the bucket, hard to get material to roll over it. I know nothing about the pirranha style bars, other than they cost 2x what a normal tooth bar costs... 
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 2:36pm |
FWIW... ALL the paving crews here have 2 buckets, 1 smooth, 1 with teeth. to them time IS money so cost of 2nd bucket probably paid for itself in a week or less.
Yeah, you need SSQA to make the 'quick change' of course......
option B.... another tractor/loader/bucket........
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 9:24pm |
 jaybmiller wrote:
FWIW... ALL the paving crews here have 2 buckets, 1 smooth, 1 with teeth. to them time IS money so cost of 2nd bucket probably paid for itself in a week or less.
Yeah, you need SSQA to make the 'quick change' of course......
option B.... another tractor/loader/bucket........ |
Lol. You know the real answer is another tractor!
Just get a quick attach system and tones.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2025 at 9:36pm |
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I have tooth bars with replaceable teeth on 2 loaders and really like them. In 5 minutes I can remove them from the bucket. There is no comparison in digging ability but I’m used to digging dirt or rock not manure.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 01 Mar 2025 at 10:19pm |
The toothed bar vs smooth bar is not something that should be referred to as an argument of 'which is better', because the answer is YES.
The toothed bucket, is like a fork. The smooth bucket, is like a spoon.
Are you eating ice cream off a plate, or picking up cubes of steak?
Would you use wire-cutters to cut a pattern out of paper? no, you'd use scissors.
As for the 'bolt on' circumstance... I've made many adaptations for my machines... and the one that comes to mind most, is the smooth-edge bucket on my backhoe. If I'm digging through sand, it's fine, but if it's anything else, it NEEDS teeth...
But I wouldn't use 'bolt on' anything, as buckets with welded-on teeth will break off a tooth if I catch a rock or root just right. in many of the places I work, A 'bolt on' would be getting torn off every time I reach... so no way... I have one of each bucket, and I 2nd the Quick Attach, so long as the machine is strong enough to still work hard with the extra weight of the QA setup in place.
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Posted: 02 Mar 2025 at 12:32pm |
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I think Dave’s theory is teeth equals digging and smooth equals transferring material.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 03 Mar 2025 at 10:56am |
Yep, Sparky- in most cases, that'll be right. An exception would be for having 'fingers' scooping up large chunks... like broken concrete chunks up from a dirt pile... getting roots and tree chunks out of dirt and sand.
If one is clearing off paved or smooth surfaces, the smooth bucket does that well without significant adjustment... if there's teeth on, one must have the bucket address very flat, otherwise it doesn't gather well.
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sparky
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Posted: 03 Mar 2025 at 10:57am |
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Ditto!
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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