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bwgill 
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 8:12am |
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I have a D17 and need to move wheels in on slide bars, is there an easy way to do this
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 8:33am |
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Loosen all four eccentrics on the wheel, hold the brake on the opposite wheel, use the the engine and tranny to spin the hub in the direction you want, to extend the wheel.
Getting the eccentrics loose is sometimes a problem if they haven't been work in years.
If that is the case you might end up disassembling the rim from the wheel center to clean and soak the rusted parts. Reassemble the eccentrics with never seize lube.
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:20am |
Here's a film from Allis on the WD45, It shows the wheel changing of a Allis.
Charlie, can you come help me set my tractors wheels for plowing you make it sound so ez. lol
Don
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:35am |
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Got a clean cheap motel close by Don? I was telling Liz yesterday I need to go to Missery the first Sat of Nov. I'm not betting on being there though.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:39am |
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Charlie - maybe Don will let you sleep outside in the "dog house" - seriously, you have to see his dog's house...lives in luxury I tell you. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:40am |
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Thanks, I am going out now to try
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:40am |
 CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Got a clean cheap motel close by Don? I was telling Liz yesterday I need to go to Missery the first Sat of Nov. I'm not betting on being there though. |
Yes there is lots of them about 15 miles from here or you guys can stay right here with me.
So just loadup and come one down!!!!
Don
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:41am |
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BWGILL - do you know if it's a Series III or Series IV D17 - those will be much easier as the rim clamps for the rails are much improved. Also at least one of the rails should have holes in it for stops on each side of the center. You'll have to remove those. The bolts can break off in those if they have rusted and been sitting a while so spray some good penetrating oil and maybe use some heat on them if they they don't seem to want to turn. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 9:53am |
Mike Is this the dog house you are talking about? its a two room heated 8' x 8' house just for one dog. lol
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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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bwgill
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 10:07am |
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I have a series III, and have the stop blocks removed. Do I need to loosen all the bolts on all the slides
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 11:16am |
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You don't loosen any bolts. There is an eccentric lock that cams up against the rail on the rim. All 4 of these need to be backed off about 180 degrees to free the rail. Then the rail can slide through the four forgings that contain the eccentrics.
Look at the wheel center. On the outside diameter of the wheel center there are 4 forgings bolted to the wheel center. On the outer part of these forgings is one hex centered in the forging. That is what needs to be turned to the left about 180 degrees. There is a small protrusion from the base of the nut that limits the travel. Turn it as far to the left as possible to loosen and they must be turned to the limit right to lock,
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 11:28am |
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Don, that film makes it look real easy too.
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 2:40pm |
Since your tractor is a series III, it should have the single bolt through the eccentric. Loosen all four, one side of the tractor at a time...do not remove nuts or bolts. Start the tractor, put the tractor in low gear or reverse (depends on which wheel you are moving) and hold the opposite brake. The earlier wheels, prior to series III had the cast design (no nuts to loosen). Good luck.
Chad
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Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 8:38pm |
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thats a cool video
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Posted: 16 Oct 2010 at 9:44am |
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Don --Great video --- makes me want to run out a buy a WD45. Wait - wife has hid the truck keys - LOL
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