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1934 WC estimated value?

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Pa Pete, 1933 was the only year for Waukesha WC's, they made 28 of them and I believe only 2 are known to exist. As far as the 1934 serial matching the year, most models should have 1 tractor that does that. U1929, UC1935, WC1934, WF1940, B1938, RC1939, C1941, G1948, WD1948, CA1951, so check your collection for your unique # tractor. Someone out there has a pic of a Waukesha WC from a show.
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Originally posted by MNLonnie MNLonnie wrote:

Pa Pete, 1933 was the only year for Waukesha WC's, they made 28 of them and I believe only 2 are known to exist. As far as the 1934 serial matching the year, most models should have 1 tractor that does that. U1929, UC1935, WC1934, WF1940, B1938, RC1939, C1941, G1948, WD1948, CA1951, so check your collection for your unique # tractor. Someone out there has a pic of a Waukesha WC from a show.
That's some neat info to know I never knew of that. Also I gues the likely hood of finding that Waukesha WC is pretty slim!
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You won't find a B, CA,  WF, or a WD with matching engine and tractor numbers. B's had the first 97 with a Waukesha engine then went to the BE engine. CA's had a CE engine of which the first 14,000 or so were used in C's and B's and the WF used the 201 which had some 37,000 engines used in the WC before WF production started. WD's also used the 201 engine and the first WD would have an engine number somewhere around 200,000 because of WC's, WF's and power units produced before the WD came out. 45's may be a gray area too because the tractor numbers followed the ending number for the WD's. but had the new 226 engine?????????
 I also doubt very much there would be a U or UC with matching tractor and engine numbers because of the Continental engine in the first U's and the same UM engine in U's,UC's,power units and M crawlers.
 Could probably forget the G also since Continental built the engine and probably stamped them with their own identifying number which would not match the Allis tractor number.
 I don't know about the RC's and how they were numbered so that would leave the WC1934 just about by itself in the matching number quest.



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You are right, there are several possibilities for tractor #'s matching the year but to get all 3 #'s to match, Bruce may have the only Allis that it could be possible on.
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Originally posted by KenBWisc KenBWisc wrote:

My '34 is S# 629. I t has features the same as mentioned above by 1946WP except I have both the original and correct cutoff wheels and a full set of steel. My gas in let and cap is larger than '35 and after and has a chain with a t rod on the bottom, correct according to Dave Ferguson. Ted, could the '33's have had the t handle locking cap or is mine wrong? As far as I know mine is original and correct except I don't have the one-piece crank due to my Grandpa and Dad's hired man dozing off while discing and running it through a fence, twice! I'd like to have a one-piece crank if anyone has one laying around. It wasn't original when I inherited it and getting it there cost me way more than it's worth ion the market. 
Norm Meinert's serial #120 has the old style gas cap with the T handle, when they changed to the newer style?  I don't know.
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lonnie & charlie , thats why the patched block engine is staying in it.
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Originally posted by 1946WP 1946WP wrote:

lonnie & charlie , thats why the patched block engine is staying in it.
 
I think I would keep it in there too.  Can anybody tell me why these blocks are prone to cracking, is it just a weak spot, and is that why they cast the rib down the side of the 226 block?
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Pete, the blocks were prone to crack because people were prone to put water in as a coolant and not draining it before it froze. I doubt there ever was one cracked that didn't have frozen water in it.
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Butch: I have also been told about the bashed in radiator tops, being from irate people having a hard time geting them to start. I was also at the understanding that the late model 34's had the name on the radiator.  Dave.
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